[CW] USA News FCC Seeks Changes in MF Amateur Band (160m)

Tue Dec 4 15:37:22 EST 2012

Also Top Band has historic basis for this, it ORIGINALLY started at 200m
recalling "200 meters and down" which wete the start of the short waves,
was a spark band then continuous wave came.

73

DR
N1EA

On Dec 4, 2012 1:00 AM, "Radio Station K0HB" <kzerohb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On a contrary note, I think that experience on 160 has demonstrated that
dynamic sharing between modes is workable and that hams have proven their
ability to fairly self-allocate bandwidth among the various modes.  I'm not
proposing an extension of the 160 model to other bands (yet), but I
heartily support retaining the current open nature of the top-band.
>
> 73,
>
> de Hans, K0HB
> --
> "Just a boy and his radio"
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 22:00, N7DC <n7dc at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I would like to readdress the idea of mode useage within the 160 meter
band, given that we are likely to receive a full allocation of the band.
Every other band from 80 thru 10 is allocated to specific modes, and helps
keep incompatible operations away from each other.  CW, of course is
allowed in the entire specturm of every other band, right up through 2
meters, so why not do the same with 160?   I know, in the past, there were
always comments of antenna bandwidth, which was the reason many wanted to
use whatever mode they wanted, all the way down to the bottom of 160, but
with today's multitude of tuners, that is simply not a good reason.  If we
are going to get the band, now is the time to make a decision on using it.
Given todays ability of the spotting network, it becomes more important
that we do that, as well, as many of us are really tired of seeing a spot
on, say 1.810, and running there only to find it is SSB and not CW.  That
completely spoils the automatic QSY, and  mode use ability of modern
computer to control our radios.
>>
>>
>>> <compose-unknown-contact.jpg>
>>> n5ky at q.com
>>> Monday, December 03, 2012 11:35 PM
>>> Filing comments is a good idea. But somehow encouraging more non contest
>>> activity would be nice too. The band offers good propagation at this
time
>>> of year but there is almost no activity other than during a contest.
>>> During last weekend's 160m contest I was able to work stations in all
regions
>>> of the country from here in NM with nothing other than a quarter wave
length
>>> of wire at 25 feet. But on any non contest evening it's like
>>> pulling teeth to get a QSO. On the reverse beacon network I can see
good signal
>>> reports of my CQs but rarely any takers. So the propagation is fine but
the
>>> activity just isn't there....unless there's a contest. I think Amateur
Radio
>>> has mutated largly into just a contesting sport. Remember the days when
a QSO
>>> lasted longer than an exchange of 599s and then QRZ? Maybe I'm just
getting
>>> old but I miss the ragchew era of Amateur Radio. And I wonder why the
FCC
>>> would give us primary allocation just so we could use the band for 3
contests
>>> per year. Jim N5KY
>>>
>>>
>>>
.........................................................................
>>> FCC PROPOSES TO RESTORE 1900-2000 KHZ IN THE 160M BAND TO PRIMARY STATUS
>>>
>>> In ET Docket 12-338 the FCC proposes to raise the secondary amateur
>>> service allocation in the 1900-2000 kHz band segment to primary status,
>>> providing amateur radio operators nearly exclusive use of the band. At
>>> present, amateur use of the top half of the 160m band is on a secondary
>>> basis, shared with Radiolocation beacons that have priority over
>>> amateurs on any shared frequency.
>>>
>>> With the avilability of the GPS satellite system for civilian use,
>>> radiolocation beacons have virtually disappeared from the 1700-1800 kHz
>>> and 1900-2000 kHz bands, but our "secondary" status remains, leaving us
>>> vulnerable to the whims of Radiolocation interests in the event that
>>> they, for whatever reason, might decide to once again operate beacons
in
>>> our band.
>>>
>>> The FCC is now accepting comments from interested parties. I would
>>> encourage everyone who has any interest in 160m to file comments of
your
>>> own in support of this proposal. Comments already submitted on all
>>> proposals contained in the Docket may be viewed at
>>> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/proceeding/view?name=12-338
>>>
>>> Rulemaking proposal ET-Docket 12-338 may be viewed in its entirety at
>>> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment/view?id=6017137896 For specifics on
>>> the 160m proposal, scroll down to page 11, beginning at paragraph 20.
>>>
>>> ET-Docket 12-338 may be viewed also at
>>> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7022061247 or downloaded in
>>> PDF form at
>>>
http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2012/db1119/FCC-12-140A1.pdf
>>>
>>> For information on the FCC's Electronic Comment Filing System go to
>>> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/
>>>
>>> For detailed instructions on how to file comments using ECFS, go to
>>> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/userManual/ecfsmanual.jsp
>>>
>>> The first submitted comment addressing 160m reallocation may be viewed
>>> at http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment/view?id=6017141101
>>>
>>> The International Telecommunications Union frequency allocation chart
>>> may be viewed at http://www.kloth.net/radio/freq-itu.php
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>>> <compose-unknown-contact.jpg>
>>> Donald Chester
>>> Monday, December 03, 2012 8:15 PM
>>> FCC PROPOSES TO RESTORE 1900-2000 KHZ IN THE 160M BAND TO PRIMARY
STATUS
>>>
>>> In ET Docket 12-338 the FCC proposes to raise the secondary amateur
service allocation in the 1900-2000 kHz band segment to primary status,
providing amateur radio operators nearly exclusive use of the band. At
present, amateur use of the top half of the 160m band is on a secondary
basis, shared with Radiolocation beacons that have priority over amateurs
on any shared frequency.
>>>
>>> With the avilability of the GPS satellite system for civilian use,
radiolocation beacons have virtually disappeared from the 1700-1800 kHz and
1900-2000 kHz bands, but our "secondary" status remains, leaving us
vulnerable to the whims of Radiolocation interests in the event that they,
for whatever reason, might decide to once again operate beacons in our
band.
>>>
>>> The FCC is now accepting comments from interested parties. I would
encourage everyone who has any interest in 160m to file comments of your
own in support of this proposal. Comments already submitted on all
proposals contained in the Docket may be viewed at
http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/proceeding/view?name=12-338
>>>
>>> Rulemaking proposal ET-Docket 12-338 may be viewed in its entirety at
http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment/view?id=6017137896  For specifics on the
160m proposal, scroll down to page 11, beginning at paragraph 20.
>>>
>>> ET-Docket 12-338 may be viewed also at
http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7022061247 or downloaded in PDF
form at
http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2012/db1119/FCC-12-140A1.pdf
>>>
>>> For information on the FCC's Electronic Comment Filing System go to
http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/
>>>
>>> For detailed instructions on how to file comments using ECFS, go to
http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/userManual/ecfsmanual.jsp
>>>
>>> The first submitted comment addressing 160m reallocation may be viewed
at  http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment/view?id=6017141101
>>>
>>> The International Telecommunications Union frequency allocation chart
may be viewed at  http://www.kloth.net/radio/freq-itu.php
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>>> ________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Danny Douglas
>> N7DC
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>> I do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do.
>>
>> Moderator:
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