[CW] W6BNB's comments to FCC

[David Toepfer]

Well, actually, no, if you look at the link I provided, you will see that
element 1 (Element 1 - 16 code groups per minute) AND 2 (Element 2 - 20 code
groups per minute) are required for T3.  I was simply refering to the existance
of element 1 as a requirement of its own, not that is was the top speed
requirement for T3.  And I never General was anythign other than 13wpm.  I
didn't say anything about it aty all.  The discussion was about what the FCC
should consider in the future instead of dropping code all together.  I don't
think I said anything to deserver such an outburst.

dt
.

--- "David J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@arrl.net> wrote:
> DT,
> 
> The code requirement for the 3rd class Radio-telegraph license is 20 wpm.
> 
> 20 wpm of English and 16 wpm of coded groups.
> 
> Remember that the morse code was made up to go faster with English, so 16
> wpm of code groups is 20 wpm of English.
> 
> But to most people on the list, they would think you meant that the
> commercial exam was at 16 wpm but the ham exam was at 13.
> 
> This would NOT be true!!!
> 
> The commercial exam is 20 wpm, and the ham exam (for General) was 13 wpm.
> 
> 73
> 
> DR
> David Ring
> N1EA (still have my T1 license!)
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Toepfer" <davetoepfer@yahoo.com>
> To: <cw@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [CW] W6BNB's comments to FCC
> 
> 
> > --- Donald Chester <k4kyv@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Back in the 193O's, the FCC recognized that
> > > > > code is learned at 13 wpm so it increased amateur Morse Code
> > > > > speed tests from 10 to 13 wpm.
> > >
> > > Actually, it was proposed to increase it to 12.5 wpm, but the FCC
> decided
> > > the calculations for characters per minute for the code tests would be
> too
> > > messy, so they upped it to the nice round number of 13.  I recall
> reading
> > > that in some old QST's of the era.
> >
> > Funny thing is, if you're gonna go with round numbers why not just go with
> 15
> > or even 16 to allign with Third Class Radiotelegraph Operator's
> Certificate
> > (T3) [ http://wireless.fcc.gov/commoperators/t3.html ] Element 1 - 16 code
> > groups per minute.  I would even support that.
> >
> > dt
> > .
> >
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