> > > Appears to me that the no-code licensees will not be able to work on the code portions of the band, and thats just what we need. > Where are these "code portions" of the band? What we commonly refer to a CW subbands are "digital" subbands. There is no CW only HF subband. And the no effort crowd wants their computer to be able to operate digital modes in the digital subbands.