[CW] Re: [TenTec] Re: [dx-list] One Day to Extra Class

James Duffer [email protected]
Sat, 20 Apr 2002 16:01:48 -0500


Come on now.....remember those Q&A manuals for the FCC First Clas Phone?!

>From: Dave Shrader <[email protected]>
>To: Jim Reid <[email protected]>
>CC: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],   ken 
>cubilo electric <[email protected]>, [email protected],   "George, 
>W5YR" <[email protected]>, [email protected], [email protected],   [email protected], 
>[email protected],   "Maxwell, Jim (Dir, Pacific)" <[email protected]>, 
>   Carl Moreschi <[email protected]>, [email protected],   
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>Subject: [TenTec] Re: [dx-list] One Day to Extra Class
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 03:40:37 -0400
>
>I've run into many new extra class operators who ask: "How do I
>calculate the length of a dipole?" or; "My tuner gets rid of the SWR in
>my antenna!". [Q&A Extras]
>
>I also teach classes. 8 2 hour sessions over two months with homework
>for a Technician License. I do NOT teach Q&A. I believe the Q&A style
>teaching is a fraud!!
>
>Maybe we should petition ARRL to request a minimum time in class before
>an upgrade is possible. Example 1 year as Tech before a person can
>upgrade to General: and, 2 years as General before a person can upgrade
>to Extra. This would create the prospects of 'some' experience in radio
>art for the senior class.
>
>I hold an Engineering degree, BSEE + many MSEE credits, and took my
>Extra when I retired.
>
>Deacon Dave, W1MCE for almost 50 years of ham radio.
>
>Jim Reid wrote:
> >
> > I am shocked at the following report from the ARRL!
> > I  am sending this to a fairly wide distribution with this
> > question:  is this where Amateur Radio really wants
> > to be going?  Or do you think the following is just
> > great and wonderful??
> >
> > >From today's ARRL Letter:
> >
> > "New York's Long Island Mobile Amateur Radio Club--LIMARC
> > --reports its first "one-day Extra" licensing upgrade class was
> > such a success that it's scheduled additional sessions for later
> > this spring. LIMARC recently attracted two dozen students to its
> > first Extra class license study short course, and nearly all who
> > attended walked away with their Extra tickets.
> >
> > "....the session involves seven hours of
> > intensive study. Five instructors taught the nine Extra examination
> > subelements, which include FCC rules, operating procedures, radio
> > propagation, Amateur Radio practices, electrical principles, circuit
> > components, practical circuits and antennas and feedlines.
> >
> > When the session ended, 20 of the 24 applicants had passed
> > Element 4. "
> >
> > All in  a "one-day"  short course.
> >
> > Wow,  I am impressed.  Took me an entire semester in engineering
> > school to learn how to solve all those impedance,  complex
> > plane,  R+/- jX problems.  And 20 of these guys learned how
> > to do those,  along with all that other stuff,  and STILL the same
> > day took and passed the Extra license exam????
> >
> > Maybe what  those five instructors "taught" was the answers
> > to the questions on the test to be given that day???  At least
> > one enquiring mind would like to know!  I believe what is
> > being reported is not possible and still be legitimate,  unless
> > those 20 guys had way above genius IQ's.  Or maybe,  they
> > all have "perfect recall" memories.
> >
> > Guess I was a real slow learning;  I was years getting the education,
> > experience and UNDERSTANDING under my belt before I went
> > for the Extra.  Oh yes,  also had to pass the 20 wpm CW test
> > that same day,  but that isn't needed anymore.  Maybe it was
> > getting to 20 wpm CW that took me all that time,  no,  don't
> > think so.  Just took me awhile to learn/understand what the
> > meaning of the stuff on the Extra Class license was all about.
> >
> > Yes,  what does the Extra Class license mean anymore??
> >
> > Just a bit disappointed,
> >
> > 73,  Jim KH7M
> >
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