[Collins] 51S-1...dial drag or no?

[Herschel McCullough]

But I still haven't been referred to or shown where the real differences
exist if any between the two knobs.. being from Texas I would like to see
the difference [ opps , that is Missouri ] you a referring to please..  I
don't have a problem with aftermarket knobs being machined.. im just not
sure there was ever a application difference.. thanx  mac/mc



----- Original Message -----
From: "David Knepper" <cra at floodcity.net>
To: "Herschel McCullough" <w5mc at austin.rr.com>
Cc: "Collins Mail List" <collins at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Collins] 51S-1...dial drag or no?


> Mac, several months ago, the CRA was promoting the weighted spinner knob
as
> "one fits all."  We were wrong.  Careful examination showed that the 51S-1
> mounting hub did not allow the "standard" weighted spinner knob from a
> KWM-2, for example, retrofit ont he 51S-1.  Therefore, Advanced Optics
Ltd.
> machined their knob to fit the 51S-1 and the KWM-2.  One knob fits both
> models.
>
> Incidentally, this weighted spinner knob, which has been sold extensively
to
> Collins owners, does not contain buckshot but rather is a one piece
machined
> knob.
>
> Try one  - you will find that it is an excellent Collins reproduction.
>
>
> Dave, W3ST
> Publisher of the Collins Journal
> Secretary to the Collins Radio Association
> www.collinsra.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herschel McCullough" <w5mc at austin.rr.com>
> To: "David Knepper" <cra at floodcity.net>; <n6kyr at netzero.net>;
> <collins at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [Collins] 51S-1...dial drag or no?
>
>
> > Leader :  minion Mac here,  Dave  I don't believe their is a lick of
> > difference here, I maintain there is no difference between the two sets
> > knobs if they are weighted, that indeed a 51s-1 knob will be form fit
and
> > function exactly the same for a KWM-2 as the 51s-1..  and that no
> > differences exist with inner hub designs..  now to quantify my
statement's
> > of above.. we are addressing only FACTORY knobs...  Not !!   aftermarket
> > retro filled with Shotgun weight lead or other fillers..  I stand ready
to
> > learn something here ,if i'm wrong, but right now I got my dough on Mr.
> Mac
> > using black out of chute number 4 ..  mac/mc
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Knepper" <cra at floodcity.net>
> > To: "Herschel McCullough" <w5mc at austin.rr.com>; <n6kyr at netzero.net>;
> > <collins at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 3:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Collins] 51S-1...dial drag or no?
> >
> >
> > > The weighted knob on a 51S-1 will fit a KWM-2 but a weighted knob for
> the
> > > KWM-2 will not fit the 51S-1.  The knobs are quite different in terms
of
> > the
> > > inner hub design.
> > >
> > > You can purchase the dial lock assembly from FR Radio in Japan.
> > >
> > > Advanced Optics Ltd. through the CRA does have the weighted knob for
the
> > > 51S-1 that will fit on the S-Line and KWM-2., if interested.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > Dave, W3ST
> > > Publisher of the Collins Journal
> > > Secretary to the Collins Radio Association
> > > www.collinsra.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Herschel McCullough" <w5mc at austin.rr.com>
> > > To: <n6kyr at netzero.net>; <collins at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 12:37 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Collins] 51S-1...dial drag or no?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I omitted. the WEIGHTED knob was always a standard feature for the
> > 51s-1..
> > > > due to the Veeder Root counter and the fact that it's PTO was
turning
> a
> > > full
> > > > Mhz as well as the small gear box with the counter, thus the
> convential
> > > non
> > > > weighted knob just didn't have the HEFT that the 51s-1 needed. so
the
> > > > engineers made the finger hole knob and didn't attach the regular
> > plastic
> > > > skirt, but instead used a chunk of machined brass in place of the
> > plastic
> > > > skirt, but yet retained the exact same outward appearance.. mac/mc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <n6kyr at netzero.net>
> > > > To: <collins at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 10:05 PM
> > > > Subject: [Collins] 51S-1...dial drag or no?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > All:
> > > > > A few weeks ago, I posted a want for a dial drag lever for my
51S-1.
> > > > However, I recently received a piece of Collins 51S-1 propaganda
that
> > > showed
> > > > an early 51S1 sans dial drag. It so happens that I think my 51S-1 is
> an
> > > > early  version (#277) and has NO dial drag.
> > > > >
> > > > > Question: who hasn't a dial drag on their 'S1? Thanks. Cal, N6KYR.
> > > > >
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