[Boatanchors] Boatanchors Digest, Vol 128, Issue 18, "good deals"

Thu Sep 4 20:34:08 EDT 2014

 OK, been reading this thread for a long time. Here's MY opinion: If you don't like it, I don't care.

Hams are the cheapest of the cheap. In today's economy, there is NOTHING wrong looking for a deal.
I have been a ham for over 50 years. I am a retired EE and have a huge collection of both radios and test equipment, mostly purchased on eBay.
I have never lived close to a major city where surplus sales and hamfests are frequent. Yes, I have been to Dayton several times. UGGG!
Like everything in life, purchasing on eBay is a learning experience. I could give lots of 'tips' on how to score great deals, but these lessons can only be learned by experience. The scum that try to buy items from widows will never learn these lessons.

For instance, I met good 'ole Radiomart back when he was called "Multicom2000', and told me he had "unlimited money" from his pals back in GB.
I ended up living about 10 miles from him and been to his 'house'. Karma always comes around. He is ... never mind.....

But I digress. .....
If you don't like eBay, don't use it! How much more simple does that have to be?

EBay has provided me with the opportunity to acquire equipment that I could only drool about as a youth.

Every eBay hater wants to rip off a widow who has an SX-115 and "doesn't know what it is". They will brag about this until their widow sells it 'cause she doesn't know what it is. ha ha

Yep, karma is a bitch!

ron
N4UE

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Today's Topics:

   1. Question from an admitted 'Newbie' (Bob Jackson)
   2. Re: Question from an admitted 'Newbie' (manualman at juno.com)
   3. Re: Question from an admitted 'Newbie' (Brian Carling)
   4. Hamfest Pricing (Keith Densmore)
   5. Hamfest Pricing, Getting a good deal (Keith Densmore)
   6. Re: Question from an admitted 'Newbie' (jeff)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 17:07:47 -0500
From: "Bob Jackson" <bob145 at suddenlink.net>
To: "porch.boat" <boatanchors at theporch.com>,	"puck.boat"
	<boatanchors at puck.nether.net>,	"qth.boat"
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Subject: [Boatanchors] Question from an admitted 'Newbie'
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Is there any kind of general consensus on exactly what is or isn't a 
'boatanchor'? I'm a 72 yo and BAs to me are the post-WW2 tubes sets made for the 
commercial (vice military) market on up to the advent and eventual dominance of 
the so-called 'solid state' rigs. It seems clear to me that others' definitions 
go back to a somewhat earlier time and do include re-cycled military gear. What 
is the general consensus, please.

Bob AG5X

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 18:47:26 -0400
From: <manualman at juno.com>
To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Question from an admitted 'Newbie'
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Trouble is, the term "boatanchors" is so misused and nebulous, it's
difficult to define today. A Morrow receiver, MBR-5, is all tubes, weighs
11 pounds, and was introduced in 1955 (roughly 60 years ago). Is this a
"boatanchor"? A National HRO-500 is all solid-state, weighs 32 pounds,
and was introduced in 1964 (roughly 50 years ago). Is this a
"boatanchor"? In some minds, some might consider both to be a
"boatanchor", or one or the other, or neither. Some probably believe a
"boatanchor" has to weigh some minimum weight, and/or can't be lifted
above your head and/or shoulders and/or has to be lifted by two people to
get it on a work bench. Maybe a "boatanchor" is defined by how big the
knobs are but then, "what is big?". 1 inch diameter, 2 inch diameter, 3
inch diameter, etc. 

Pete, wa2cwa
www.manualman.com

On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 17:07:47 -0500 "Bob Jackson" <bob145 at suddenlink.net>
writes:
> Is there any kind of general consensus on exactly what is or isn't a 
> 'boatanchor'? I'm a 72 yo and BAs to me are the post-WW2 tubes sets 
> made for the commercial (vice military) market on up to the advent 
> and eventual dominance of the so-called 'solid state' rigs. It seems 
> clear to me that others' definitions go back to a somewhat earlier 
> time and do include re-cycled military gear. What is the general 
> consensus, please.
> 
> Bob AG5X

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 18:52:53 -0400
From: Brian Carling <bcarling at cfl.rr.com>
To: "qrv at kd4e.com" <qrv at kd4e.com>
Cc: "porch.boat" <boatanchors at theporch.com>,	"puck.boat"
	<boatanchors at puck.nether.net>,	"qth.boat"
	<boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Question from an admitted 'Newbie'
Message-ID: <0EC9E306-2B9A-44E0-BE12-363E15BD38E7 at cfl.rr.com>
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In the UK an antique is something 100 years old. In the USA it is anything 25 
years old or if the seller can convince you it is!

Best regards - Bry Carling

> On Sep 4, 2014, at 6:41 PM, "qrv at kd4e.com" <qrv at kd4e.com> wrote:
> 
> Tubes + a sore back after lifting it?  ;-)
> 
> Seriously, aren't the categories something like this?
> 
> "Modern" less than 25 years old
> "Classic" 25 - 50 years old
> "Boatanchor" 50 - 75 years old
> "Antique" 75+ years old
> 
> David KD4E
> 
>> Tubes.
>> WL
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Bob Jackson
>> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 6:07 PM
>> To: porch.boat ; puck.boat ; qth.boat
>> Subject: [Boatanchors] Question from an admitted 'Newbie'
>> 
>> Is there any kind of general consensus on exactly what is or isn't a
>> 'boatanchor'? I'm a 72 yo and BAs to me are the post-WW2 tubes sets made
>> for the commercial (vice military) market on up to the advent and
>> eventual dominance of the so-called 'solid state' rigs. It seems clear
>> to me that others' definitions go back to a somewhat earlier time and do
>> include re-cycled military gear. What is the general consensus, please.
>> 
>> Bob AG5X
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 19:04:23 -0400
From: "Keith Densmore" <ve3gem at gmail.com>
To: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Boatanchors] Hamfest Pricing
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A sale does not occur when buyer and seller agree on value. A sale does 
occur when they agree on price. They disagree on value.

If I sell a HQ-170 for 100 to Bill, I
perceive 100 to be of more value to me than the radio.
Bill perceives the radio to be of more value to him than his 100.

Just a thought

Keith ve3ts

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 19:09:53 -0400
From: "Keith Densmore" <ve3gem at gmail.com>
To: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Boatanchors] Hamfest Pricing, Getting a good deal
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About 20 years ago I was at a large  outdoor 'fest with a couple of friends.
Another guy we knew pretty well had a tailgate set up and was selling. As it
happened, one of our guys was using a motorized chair. He could walk fine
but used it to save energy at bigger hamfests.
We came up with a practical joke. One of the guys borrowed the chair, put on
a big straw hat over his head, slumped in the chair and motored over to said 
table. Without his face being seen, he pointed a twitching finger at an old 
military  antenna tuner and asked in a frail, weak voice 'how much is
that?'.
 Unaware that he knew the guy in the chair,  Bob the seller  said  'well old 
timer if you can use this, its yours, free.' Imagine the look on
the seller's face when the wheel chair bound geezer jumped up out of the 
chair, grabbed the tuner, said 'gee thanks' and sprinted off with it!
Needless to say we all cracked up laughing. The tuner was returned and all 
were happy. The targeted seller laughed the most.

Not intended as a slap against wheel-chairees. Gawd knows, I'll be there 
soon enuf!

73,
Keith ve3ts

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 19:27:34 -0400
From: jeff <jeffv at op.net>
To: manualman at juno.com, boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Question from an admitted 'Newbie'
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On 09/04/2014 06:47 PM, manualman at juno.com wrote:
> Trouble is, the term "boatanchors" is so misused and nebulous, it's
> difficult to define today. A Morrow receiver, MBR-5, is all tubes, weighs

Tubes.

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