[Boatanchors] Short Wave Broadcast Folks:

J. Forster jfor at quikus.com
Wed Apr 16 18:13:55 EDT 2014


POTS - Plain Old Telephone Service = copper pair

FIOS - Verizon's Fiber optic phone/TV/Internet

XFINITY - Comcast cable (coax) Phone/TV/Internet

-John

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> I give up!  What the hell are POTS, FIOS, XFINITY and all this jargon?
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>> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:34:51 -0400
>> From: rbethman at comcast.net
>> To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Short Wave Broadcast Folks:
>>
>> I'd say that I was bombarded for the last four years by constant
>> knocking on the door to get me to go ALL FIOS.
>>
>> At the same time, XFINITY has been doing the same.
>>
>> No one has bothered me since I let them put the phone on FIOS.
>>
>> My internet is cable, and my TV is DirecTV satellite.
>>
>> The overall costs are LESS than going all in on either FIOS *or*
>> XFINITY.
>>
>> My philosophy is simple.  I keep it cheap!
>>
>> I bought ALL the DirecTV equipment in 2000.  They have upgraded my
>> receivers FREE!
>>
>> Bob - N0DGN
>>
>>
>> On 4/16/2014 2:21 PM, W4AWM at aol.com wrote:
>> > You CAN fight the phone company if you don't want FIOS installed. It
>> > will eventually happen, but even though they have tried to force me
>> > off of copper, I stuck to my guns and still have it.  The only way it
>> > will happen at my QTH is when all the neighbors loose their copper,
>> > too.  Check with your County and State consumer rights groups to see
>> > what their rules state.  Remember, copper is regulated, FIOS is not,
>> > depending on your consumer rules.Once you have FIOS installed, you
>> > will be bombarded with sales folks tying to sell you Internet and TV.
>> > My copper has stayed up at times when the neighbors have lost their
>> > FIOS and have actually knocked on my door asking to use my copper
>> > phone. FIOS folks will tell you anything to get you to sign up.  By
>> > the way, they usually bury the fiber line about 3 inches deep. If you
>> > have your lawn aerated, chances are that the fiver line will get
>> > chopped in one or more places. Even if you have MISS UTILITY mark the
>> > line, you will have a strip of grass that is sickly compared to the
>> > rest of your lawn where the grounds folks stay away from the marked
>> > line.  The FIOS folks will be happy to put your line in conduit or
>> > bury it the standard 18 inches for other utilities if you have the
>> > excavation done at your expense.
>> > 73,
>> > John, W4AWM
>> > In a message dated 4/16/2014 2:10:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> > rbethman at comcast.net writes:
>> >
>> >     I just went through having been taken off POTS.
>> >
>> >     It isn't correct to say that if the power goes out that you lose
>> >     signal!
>> >
>> >     When the fiber optic was installed, it also comes with a float
>> >     charger
>> >     and a battery that will last for about 8 hours.
>> >
>> >     Bob - N0DGN
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     On 4/16/2014 12:22 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote:
>> >     > They ARE getting rid of them. AT&T has made no secret of their
>> long
>> >     > term goal to eliminate POTS. They want everyone on Uverse or
>> >     whatever
>> >     > the internet phone system is, and they are pursuing that goal
>> >     state by
>> >     > state with lobbying to change laws. It is only a matter of time
>> >     before
>> >     > you will get a letter offering options and POTS won't be one of
>> >     them.
>> >     > You may have a few years but eventually anyone still on the
>> copper
>> >     > line will be forced to give it up. They say it is cost and
>> >     economics
>> >     > but what they don't say is that the regulations governing the
>> >     > provision of phone service are MUCH stricter and favorable to
>> >     > consumers with POTS. And of course they don't say that when your
>> >     power
>> >     > goes off, the good old twisted pair still works, if you have an
>> old
>> >     > style phone, whereas that gee whiz new digital internet phone
>> will
>> >     > not. 73 Rob K5UJ
>
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