[Boatanchors] LightSquared

Mon Oct 8 17:19:27 EDT 2012

You are severely misinformed!

Bob - N0DGN

On 10/8/2012 5:14 PM, J. Forster wrote:
> I don't think any commercial airline or the military would fly w/o INS.
>
> -John
>
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>> You and others apparently haven't looked at any approach plates!
>>
>> Augmented GPS *IS* in the cockpit, and INS is more expensive.
>>
>> Dulles International Airpost, as well as ANY CAT IV, (Major Airport),
>> DOES rely on Augmented GPS Approaches.
>>
>> Even the Military used Augmented GPS to put the Nose Wheel to within 6"
>> of the runway center-line.
>>
>> Still a certificated Pilot!
>>
>> Bob - N0DGN
>>
>> On 10/8/2012 1:19 PM, J. Forster wrote:
>>> I believe LightSquared is still at it as of a couple of months ago. As
>>> to
>>> aircraft, commercial plans all have an INS now, I'd think. Not so
>>> General
>>> Aviation.
>>>
>>> The point of my citing LightSquared was not a critique of the proposed
>>> system, but an endictment of the fact that the FCC was ever seriously
>>> considering authorizing it, despite public and industry outcry.
>>>
>>> This case clearly shows the FCC is more interested in politics and is
>>> more
>>> swayed by political considerations, than technical issues.
>>>
>>> Last night, FOX had a special on the EPA and "Sustainability". Do you
>>> know
>>> what that agenda really involves? It's a radical Progressive agenda that
>>> goes far, far beyond soda cans to things like social and environmental
>>> "justice".
>>>
>>> YMMV,
>>>
>>> -John
>>>
>>> ============
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Didn't the FCC kill the LightSquared nonsense?
>>>> Perhaps I am mistaken but I am almost certain that the FCC would not
>>>> allow
>>>> LS to deploy that system as intended.
>>>>
>>>> Dave Harmon
>>>> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
>>>> Sperry, Ok.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>>> [mailto:boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of rbethman
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 11:59 AM
>>>> To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
>>>> Subject: [Boatanchors] LightSquared
>>>>
>>>> Whom wants to be on final approach to a landing with LightSquared
>>>> screwing
>>>> up the GPS signal that the cockpit is using GPS for navigation?
>>>>
>>>> Commercial Aircraft use GPS for navigation, with Augmentation from the
>>>> airport.
>>>>
>>>> Where is YOUR aircraft going to end up?
>>>>
>>>> General Aviation is using GPS more and more to allow for direct
>>>> routing.
>>>>
>>>> Sure sounds like BIG problems to me!
>>>>
>>>> Bob - N0DGN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/7/2012 8:49 PM, Duane Fischer, W8DBF wrote:
>>>>> John,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm. Sounds like trouble in the making to me. Where can one read more
>>>>> about this problem in the making? Thanks John.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com>
>>>>> To: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
>>>>> Cc: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 6:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Rebuttal to DF
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are giant problems with the FCC. Among the really serious ones
>>>>>> is LightSquared which is trying to build a 1.5 GHz terrestrial
>>>>>> network of something like 10,000 high power transmitters right next
>>>>>> to the GPS frequency. It is largely backed by a hedge fund (think
>>>>>> billions). The bigwig in the hedge fund is a big Obama bundler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LightSquared has been shown to kill GPS usability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===============
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For what it is worth, the administration I was refering to was not
>>>>>>> the national leader, but the stagnant directors of the FCC. I should
>>>>>>> have been more clear. Enough said, back to radio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "DAve Mayfield" <laptop at gwltd.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Bill Cotter" <n4lg at qx.net>
>>>>>>> Cc: <Boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 6:23 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Rebuttal to DF
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RADIOS guys, not which worthless, cheating, SOB is going to be in
>>>>>>>> the White House. BOATANCHORS is the name of the list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bill Cotter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Duane,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think you are forgetting that 8-years of the Bush administration
>>>>>>>>> delivered two wars and a broken treasury to the Obama
>>>>>>>>> administration. How long do you think it takes to unwind a fiasco
>>>>>>>>> of that size? Tell you friends and families that they can expect
>>>>>>>>> more of the same in a Romney administration - wars are how the
>>>>>>>>> wealthy get richer. And the job's Romney promises, they will be in
>>>>>>>>> India and China...........
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> N4LG
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At 11:03 PM 10/5/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The current administration needs to go ... America and Amateur
>>>>>>>>>> Radio are both worth preserving. Too many of my friends and
>>>>>>>>>> family gave their lives for freedom!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: <k3xr at juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <Boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 1:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Boatanchors] FCC DUMBS DOWN
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No surprise here, more of the "all the same" equal outcome for
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Americans,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There was a time it was equal opportunity but that is quickly
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> falling by
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the wayside.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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