[Boatanchors] relicensing NPRM

Bry Carling bcarling at cfl.rr.com
Fri Oct 5 20:57:24 EDT 2012


Thanks Jim,

How well would you say that it has worked out with Riley Hollingsworth?

I haven't been following it. Is he stilll on the job?

I have mixed feelings about several aspects of this, especially after reading David Stinson's 
interesting comments.

On 5 Oct 2012 at 15:36, Jim Wilhite wrote:

> If the organization of any "private agency or group" run by hams
> with the 
> authority to collect evidence and push hams to conform to the rules
> were 
> properly established, I would be supportive.  The way things are now
> we 
> suffer from a real lack of enforcement from the FCC.  That type of
> thing 
> would be difficult under present law but could be instituted.
> 
> Before I would support any such change I would want to be sure it is
> properly organized and had oversight by a group of credentialed
> individuals 
> acting as a group.  Maybe then we would see some of the trouble
> causing 
> operators fall into line.  I know, I know that is wishful
> thinking.
> 
> The observation about carte blanche granting of a license based on
> 15-20 
> year old proof of licensure is a path to problems because of rule
> and 
> emission changes.  There should, at very least, be a test of law,
> rules and 
> regulations before someone was grandfathered after 2 years.
> 
> Jim
> W5JO
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> 
> 
> >I am guessing that the same line of reasning has been in use at
> state 
> >drivers' license offices
> > for several decades now. And we wonder why there are so many
> collisions 
> > every day.
> >
> > FCC used to be a great agency and did things first class in every
> way 
> > until they started
> > getting defunded and underfunded, beginning in the  late 1970s.
> Ask any 
> > FCC "Engineer In
> > Charge."  It has to have been very hard for them to watch what has
> been 
> > done to their
> > agency. At least it hasn't beeen privatized yet (like in England.)
> Who 
> > knows which is worst or
> > best.
> >
> > On 5 Oct 2012 at 9:31, Todd, KA1KAQ wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:59 AM, David Stinson
> <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Why not just quite all the pretense, "cut to the chase"
> >> > and print licenses on boxes of Cherrios?
> >> > The ops certainly wouldn't be any worse
> >> > than what I hear on 2 meters.
> >>
> >> Or 75, or 40, or 20, etc etc etc. AM, SSB, CW, SSTV, on and on.
> >>
> >> There have been lids, idiots, and other fools on the amateur
> bands
> >> as
> >> long as I can recall. Granted, they are in the minority and
> less
> >> noticeable than the CB band by virtue of the much lower numbers
> of
> >> hams.
> >>
> >> Clearly we're not doing a very good job of attracting new
> talent
> >> to
> >> the hobby, and the FCC sees this as a viable alternative to
> >> letting
> >> amateur radio die off.
> >>
> >> I'm sure they're open to better ideas that anyone has to offer.
> >>
> >> ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
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