[Boatanchors] Elmer

Tue Dec 11 16:38:31 EST 2012

Oh yeah..... the 'personal'......hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I forgot about that one!!

Dave Harmon
K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
Sperry, Ok.

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[mailto:boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bry Carling
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:44 PM
To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Elmer

Dave - one that positively grates on me, as hard as I tryto be tolerant, is
when they say how many Qs they made, meaning contacts. Ugh!  You would think
QSO is the ONLY Q signal!

Personal here be AF4K, IQ be lower than m'number o' Qs.

On 11 Dec 2012 at 13:49, Dave Harmon wrote:

> Yeah....mebby we should do away with the word 'Ham'....and 'QUARMER'
> and
> 'roger' and 'QSL?' on the end of every transmission.....
> Don't forget 'there' used in every sentence....
> There's gotta be more but I don't want to waste any more time....
> Preserve Amateur Radio tradition....ditch the CB'r and all the 
> operating habits and language they bring to the bands.
> 
> Dave Harmon
> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
> Sperry, Ok.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:27 PM
> To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Boatanchors] Elmer
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Actually, the term "elmer" is something relatively new, and only 
> recently
> has it come into any kind of common use.   It was first used in a
> March
> 1971 QST article by Dave Newkirk:
> 
> "Too frequently one hears a sad story in this little nutshell: 'Oh, I 
> almost got a ticket, too, but Elmer, W9XYZ, moved away and I kind of 
> lost interest.'"
> 
> Newkirk went on to say, "We need those Elmers. All the Elmers, 
> including the ham who took the most time and trouble to give you a 
> push toward your license, are the birds who keep this great game young 
> and fresh."
> 
> 
> What the ARRL thinks of the term "elmer" today:
> 
>  From the ARRL Web Site:
> 
> "Hams Helping Hams - ARRL Mentor Program"
> 
> "Welcome to the ARRL Mentor page. This page is going to be the central 
> hub for all things that deal with mentoring or Elmers and clubs. We 
> have already posted an initial set of resources to make navigating the 
> site easier for everyone and especially the new ham."
> 
> "There has been a bit of question as to why we are using the term 
> mentor as opposed to the traditional term Elmer. Ham radio does have 
> its share of tradition and lore, and to a lot of folks it seems that 
> we are breaking from tradition and discarding the affectionate term 
> Elmer. Not so. Most folks outside of Amateur Radio do not recognize 
> what an Elmer is, but they do know what a mentor is. And because this 
> program is geared toward the new ham we don't want to confuse anyone."
> 
> 
> What some other hams think of the term "elmer" today:
> 
> 
> I just wish that dumb-sounding term "elmer" would go away for good.
> 
> Don k4kyv
> 
> 
> I hate that name, I always get a vision of Elmer Fudd or some unwashed 
> mountain hillbilly.
> 
> Whoever thought it up should be strung up by the heels and beat with 
> the Wouff Hong.
> 
> Carl
> KM1H
> 
> 
> I think that the time has come to retire "elmer" for good.
> 
> 73, Bruce WA8TNC
> ===============
> Al Klase wrote:
> > Richard,
> >
> > Like you, I never heard the term Elmer until about 20 years ago,
> and
> > I've read a lot of old QST's. I kinda wish the guy who started
> this
> > would explain himself.
> >
> > My best guess is that it refers to Elmer E. Bucher , who was
> American
> > Marconi's chief instructor in the Pre-RCA era, and later served a 
> > similar role under David Sarnoff.  He wrote book like "Practical 
> > Wireless Telegraphy" and "Wireless Experimenter's Manual" which
> are
> classics.
> > Search Google Books for Elmer E. Bucher
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> > On 12/11/2012 12:19 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
> >>   ...........  BTW, a puzzle to me is the term "elmer" to mean 
> >> mentor. I never saw or heard this until about twenty years ago.
> You
> >> will not find it in any old handbook or list of ham radio slang. 
> I
> >> wonder where it originated and who "Elmer" was. ........
> >
> 
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