[Boatanchors] Elmer

[Bry Carling]

Dave - one that positively grates on me, as hard as I tryto be tolerant, is when they say how 
many Qs they made, meaning contacts. Ugh!  You would think QSO is the ONLY Q signal!

Personal here be AF4K, IQ be lower than m'number o' Qs.

On 11 Dec 2012 at 13:49, Dave Harmon wrote:

> Yeah....mebby we should do away with the word 'Ham'....and 'QUARMER'
> and
> 'roger' and 'QSL?' on the end of every transmission.....
> Don't forget 'there' used in every sentence....
> There's gotta be more but I don't want to waste any more time....
> Preserve Amateur Radio tradition....ditch the CB'r and all the
> operating
> habits and language they bring to the bands.
> 
> Dave Harmon
> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
> Sperry, Ok.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:27 PM
> To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Boatanchors] Elmer
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Actually, the term "elmer" is something relatively new, and only
> recently
> has it come into any kind of common use.   It was first used in a
> March
> 1971 QST article by Dave Newkirk:
> 
> "Too frequently one hears a sad story in this little nutshell: 'Oh,
> I almost
> got a ticket, too, but Elmer, W9XYZ, moved away and I kind of lost
> interest.'"
> 
> Newkirk went on to say, "We need those Elmers. All the Elmers,
> including the
> ham who took the most time and trouble to give you a push toward
> your
> license, are the birds who keep this great game young and fresh."
> 
> 
> What the ARRL thinks of the term "elmer" today:
> 
>  From the ARRL Web Site:
> 
> "Hams Helping Hams - ARRL Mentor Program"
> 
> "Welcome to the ARRL Mentor page. This page is going to be the
> central hub
> for all things that deal with mentoring or Elmers and clubs. We have
> already
> posted an initial set of resources to make navigating the site
> easier for
> everyone and especially the new ham."
> 
> "There has been a bit of question as to why we are using the term
> mentor as
> opposed to the traditional term Elmer. Ham radio does have its share
> of
> tradition and lore, and to a lot of folks it seems that we are
> breaking from
> tradition and discarding the affectionate term Elmer. Not so. Most
> folks
> outside of Amateur Radio do not recognize what an Elmer is, but they
> do know
> what a mentor is. And because this program is geared toward the new
> ham we
> don't want to confuse anyone."
> 
> 
> What some other hams think of the term "elmer" today:
> 
> 
> I just wish that dumb-sounding term "elmer" would go away for
> good.
> 
> Don k4kyv
> 
> 
> I hate that name, I always get a vision of Elmer Fudd or some
> unwashed
> mountain hillbilly.
> 
> Whoever thought it up should be strung up by the heels and beat with
> the
> Wouff Hong.
> 
> Carl
> KM1H
> 
> 
> I think that the time has come to retire "elmer" for good.
> 
> 73, Bruce WA8TNC
> ===============
> Al Klase wrote:
> > Richard,
> >
> > Like you, I never heard the term Elmer until about 20 years ago,
> and 
> > I've read a lot of old QST's. I kinda wish the guy who started
> this 
> > would explain himself.
> >
> > My best guess is that it refers to Elmer E. Bucher , who was
> American 
> > Marconi's chief instructor in the Pre-RCA era, and later served a
> > similar role under David Sarnoff.  He wrote book like "Practical
> > Wireless Telegraphy" and "Wireless Experimenter's Manual" which
> are
> classics.
> > Search Google Books for Elmer E. Bucher
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> > On 12/11/2012 12:19 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
> >>   ...........  BTW, a puzzle to me is the term "elmer" to mean 
> >> mentor. I never saw or heard this until about twenty years ago.
> You 
> >> will not find it in any old handbook or list of ham radio slang. 
> I 
> >> wonder where it originated and who "Elmer" was. ........
> >
> 
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