[Boatanchors] Help With Determining My "Section" Number

Lloyd KK7IZ kk7iz at cox.net
Sun Jun 28 23:08:40 EDT 2009


Simple. You are section 8.
Thanx
Lloyd  KK7IZ
kk7iz at cox.net
480-620-7145


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
To: "D C *Mac* Macdonald" <k2gkk at hotmail.com>; <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Help With Determining My "Section" Number


>I am a bit confused by the 1, D, MI and the 1,D, Michigan if using 
>commercial power.
>
> How does whether or not I am using commercial power affect my geographical 
> section?
>
> In years past when I worked Field Day from home with a generator for 
> power, I was told bo use 1,A Nothing was said about any other identifier. 
> I guess the person telling me assumed I was bright enough to say that I 
> was in Michigan!
>
> It never even occurred to me this year when I decided to participate in 
> Field Day Saturday afternoon - just because that I needed to change my 
> designation from the "A" (apparently wrong from the get go for a station 
> operating with emergency generator power!), to "D" for commercial power! 
> So I happily worked hundreds of stations as Michigan "1,A" ...
>
> Then Sunday morning, at least UTC wise anyhow, 0318 UTC, a station in CA 
> seemed puzzled and asked if I was participating in Field Day "officially". 
> I told him that if that meant had I signed up, filled out forms or 
> submitted cash, negative. I was just operating to keep my skills in proper 
> form in the event of a national disaster, declaration of war or whatever 
> else we might be needed for.
>
> He started to read something, half to himself and haf to the rest of us 
> listening. "You are only operating one transmitter, right?" Yes. "Are you 
> running power, like an amplifier?" Yes. 450 watts PEP. "You are in 
> Michigan, right?" Yes. The southeastern part of the state. The County is 
> Genesee and the city is Flint.
>
> He said that I was a 1,A and asked me for my section number. I had then, 
> nor do I have yet, any idea what my section number is! I have zones for 
> the ARRL, zones for ITU, FCC codes - passwords - registration numbers, 
> certifications for this and that etc. But nothing I have tells me my 
> section number!
>
> Now I find out that this Hispanic Ham in CA was himself using the wrong 
> whatever it is called! He was not 1,A,P but 1,A,PAC! So Hams in CA tell 
> me.
>
> One thing is for sure! If we Hams are obligated to help, or required by 
> our FCC license to render assistance, then somebody somewhere better get 
> this identifier thing figured out like ASAP in case the unthinkable 
> happens and we are needed! The last thing we need is Hams arguing with 
> other as to who is qualified to be the NCS, who has their section number 
> right and so forth. I have this vision of Smokey The Bear with his back 
> turned to the fire fighters, police, EMS crews etc., with one paw over his 
> snout and mouth and just laughing his ass off! Smokey? You might consider 
> eating a few hundred kilos less of those candies the children give you 
> when you visit their schools to talk to them about "Only they can prevent 
> forest fires! As Mother Nature is hard of hearing, won't admit to it and 
> refuses to buy batteries for the hearing aids that Father Time and other 
> childhood immortals chipped in to get her!" Do this before those ASPCA 
> people track you down, shott you with a tranquiliz
> er dart or three, drag you into a metal cage and haul you off to an 
> overweight animal food withdrawal centers! I can promise you Smokey, that 
> you are not going to like those vetinary medicine dropouts using 
> motivational therapy, (AKA electric cattle prod in your rump to crawl 
> faster on their dreadmill!
>
> Remember what happened to your father who used to hang out with BooBoo The 
> Bear and his associate Yogi "it ain't Berra!" Bear and that park ranger 
> with quite a few spots gone missing on his deck of Bicycle playing cards! 
> Good old Yogi and his park raids on the tourists 'pic-a-nic baskets' (as 
> "only" Yogi could say it!). Then grandpa Smokey blurted out those 
> unfortunate historic words on live TV "Remember children! Forest fires 
> help to prevent Bears and only you can ignite them by being careless with 
> live coals and matches!" Which is why the population of Yosemity Park went 
> up by one and the new national fire symbol is that goofy cannine with 
> Bucky Beaver teeth and a fire fighter hat that makes his ears parallel 
> with the ground, like little bi-plane wings! So slim down, get a new 
> catchy motto and we will send that third cousin to those dogs that bark 
> "Jingle Bells" each Christmas off to some petting zoo on the moon's new 
> human lunar habitat!
> So back to the original question. Why do I use 1,d, Michigan with 
> commercial power instead of 1,D, MI with ... What? Everything else but 
> commercial power? But what do "Michigan" and/or "MI" have to do with my 
> source of power. Isn't that third item the geographical section?
>
>
> ---- Original Message ----- 
>  From: D C *Mac* Macdonald
>  To: dfischer at usol.com ; boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
>  Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:05 AM
>  Subject: RE: [Boatanchors] Help With Determining My "Section" Number
>
>
>  Hi, Duane and all.
>
>  The report that YOU would give would be ONE DELTA MICHIGAN,
>  or ONE DELTA MIKE INDIA assuming you are running a fixed home
>  station on  commerical power.
>
>  The first digit indicates the number of transmitters in use.
>
>  The second digit represents the class of your operation.
>
>  ALPHA is a group portable station ofa club or more than
>  two operators
>
>  BRAVO is a one or two-person operation.
>
>  CHARLIE represents a mobile station.
>
>  DELTA represents a fixed station on commercial power.
>
>  ECHO is used for fixed stations using emergency power.
>
>  FOXTROT indicates a station at some type of emergency
>  operations center.
>
>  The final 2 or 3 characters indicate the A R R L section.
>
>  Some A R R L divisions have states that are divided into
>  several sections, which requires three characters.
>
>  The section abbreviations are found in Q S T magazine
>  on the A R R L section manager page.
>
>  Good luck and have fun!
>
>
>  73 - Mac K2GKK
>  Oklahoma City
>
>
>
>
>  > From: dfischer at usol.com
>  > To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
>  > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:40:40 -0400
>  > Subject: [Boatanchors] Help With Determining My "Section" Number
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Hi All,
>  >
>  > I am being asked this Field Day Weekend for my "Section Number". 
> Apparently
>  > I missed something in years gone by doing the calculations. The number 
> I end
>  > up with is not right in any case. Please help me calculate it right. 
> Thank
>  > you.
>  >
>  > I was talking with a station in Hawaii and he was 1AP. Now that is one
>  > transmitter, an amplifier and I assume his state, although Hawaii. was 
> "P"
>  > for the Pacific. Am i correct?
>  >
>  > I have one transmitter in use, so that is my "1". I am using a small 
> 450
>  > watt PEP amplifier so there is my amplifier for the "A". I live in
>  > southeastern Michigan. Since I give my city and state out of habit it 
> is
>  > always said. But what do I do for the state or whatever that third
>  > designator is?
>  >
>  > Thank you 'very' much gentlemen.
>  >
>  > Duane, W8DBF
>  >
>  > Duane Fischer, W8DBF - WPE8CXO
>  > E-Mail: dfischer at usol.com
>  > Hallicrafters web site: www.w9wze.net
>  > HHRP web site: hhrp.w9wze.net
>  >
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