[Boatanchors] Well, that got me banned immediately

Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:59:20 -0400

Tom was 'not' removed.	

Simply put: EBAY is a for profit business. Those who use it pay EBAY. Those who
use it profit. Which is fine. Those who use these lists seldom contribute a cent
to support them, Al Waller, K3TKJ owns them and he works his butt off to keep
them operating. Did you ever have to come up with the cash to pay for multiple
T1 lines? You sure can't run these lists with a cable modem people. A million
pieces of traffic per day, that is the reality.	

Those who post links to an electronic auction here support EBAY, put money in
their pocket, how does Al benefit? Do they send him a percentage? No. Do they
donate to support the lists that made them money? Rarely. The lists were never
intended to be a mean sby which Hams could profit by misuse. A Ham could sell
his/her items, as in 'personal' items, on these lists. It was not meant for a
business to sell and use them for free advertising or for supporting electronic
auctions.	

That is the basis for my no EBAY links policy. I am not opposed to EBAY. That is
not the issue. The issue is not using these lists to further the cause of EBAY,
or 'ANY' other auction, at Al Waller's expense and of the subscribers. If I
allow one link, soon it is two, three and before long, the whole list is a big
EBAY commercial. So people, we are not going there.	

If that offends some, too bad. Al Waller actually has a list for such EBAY
stuff, why don't you go use it?	

Duane Fischer, W8DBF	

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From: Grant Youngman <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Well, that got me banned immediately
Date: Friday, April 16, 2004 8:30 AM

Based on similar happenings in the past and the inevitable follow-on 
discussion, I think the rule is set down by the owner/operator of 
QTH.net.  It's his, he can set whatever rules he wants.  Duane done 
a good job of moderating these lists ...  on this is simply the 
messenger.

That said, on other lists without such draconian rules I've never 
seen a problem with overwhelming postings regarding items or 
activites taking place at unmentionable websites.  So one could 
wonder what all the stink is really about .. and why someone would 
have their head bashed for one post, when a simple warning or 
notice would most likely take care of the problem without generating 
such unnecessary bad feelings.  Nonetheless, it is what it is.

Grant/NQ5T

> someone give me the unsubscribe info please.
> 
> i do not have time for bs or overlords.
> 
> to the many fine people i have met on this list, nice to meet you 
and
> i will miss you.
> 
> mike ku4yp
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "W1EOF" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:04 AM
> Subject: [Boatanchors] Well, that got me banned immediately
> 
> 
> >
> > I have found some of Duanes decisions to be different from 
what I
> > would make. I would even go so far as to say "different from the
> > norm."
> However...
> >
> > It's *his* list, his rules, and totally up to him how to run it. If
> > you don't like how his, or any other list is run then it's pretty
> > darn simple
> to
> > avoid it. Or start one of your own.
> >
> > That said, I've decided to unsub the QTH:boatanchor list. I don't
> > have anything against Duane personally, but there is just too 
much
> > controversy. For me it's simple math: What I get out of 
something vs
> > what I have to put out (or up-with). In this case a friend is
> > banished for the first
> occurence
> > of violating a rule that is from what I can see, unpublished. Other
> > people also commented on the same subject, violating the rule. 
They
> > are not (to
> my
> > knowledge) banned. Too hard for me to figure out.
> >
> > It's a small example of a free market, and it works. Pretty 
simple.
> >
> > Bye to all on the QTH boatanchor list.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Mark W1EOF
> >
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