[Boatanchors] Re Stereotypes

Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:53:20 -0400

John, 	

No apology needed, but thank you for some sincerity. 	

The design of the audio systems was built around the research of one particular
individual. Anyone know who? Hint: very early fifties.	

This approach remained relatively unchanged until about the early eighties. Then
the concept of 'full range amplification' replaced it. Things have not sounded
the same since! 	

It might be fun to discuss this at length, as it does relate to vintage gear, be
it sound equipment as opposed to receivers and transmitters. Those old tube amps
and speakers certainly qualify in the boat anchor distinction area of, if you
can lift it without getting a hernia, it ain't a boat anchor!  	

If you want to hear a modern sound difference, compare a laser disk to a digital
video disk! Really obvious in surround sound.	

DBF	

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From: John Myers <[email protected]>
To: Duane Fischer, W8DBF <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Re Stereotypes
Date: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 10:41 AM

Duane,

My sincere apologies for you, and anyone I offended in my reply to the 
audiofools message. 

But, I was refering not to collectors, but to someone that would spend 
well over $200 for this hunk of quartz.

As for myself, I agree that my old SX-838 sounds better than any audio 
system in my home; even to my less than perfect ears. In fact, I bought 
it with the intention to "EBay" it. After hearing it, I think I will 
hang on to it for a year, or two, or 30.  

As I get older, I am appreciating the sound of high end audio, more 
than ever before.

When I used the term "audiophools" in my post, I never gave a thought 
to whether I would be offending anyone. That, I guess, make me human.

I apologize. 

John, KD8MQ

> 
> 	
> Stereotypes are a fact of life, whether we like it or not. While some 
are
> totally inaccurate and destructive, others are so ridiculous as to be 
amusing
> and are relatively inert. What i do not want happening on this list, 
is the
> branding of anyone, or any group, as "fools". You do not tell a man 
who just
> spent ten grand on a new tube amplifier that he is a fool, especially 
if you
> happen to be the seller! 	
> 	
> Foolishness, vanity and ego tripping can be found anywhere one cares 
to look. To
> one extent or another, we are all guilty of it now and then. The 
downside is
> that refering to an individual, or a group, as "fools" on these lists 
is an
> invitation for a flame war event. It is one thing to comment that 
buying oxygen
> free speed wire for speakers on a stereo system is 'ridiculous' 
or 'foolish',
> but another when you call the buyer a fool. Hence the reference 
to 'audiofool'.	
> 	
> Walk up to a person in a store who just paid out hundreds, or 
thousands, for
> some product or accessory for his/her stereo system and tell them you 
think they
> are a fool! You may end up with that oxygen free wire around your 
neck depriving
> you of oxygen! Better to go home and chuckle in private than to do it
> publically.    	
> 	
> When you publically call one person who paid $9,000 for a pristine rx 
a fool
> because no vacuum tube radio is worth that much, you just branded 
collectors as
> a group as being fools. 	
> 	
> Any group has individuals who go to extremes, including high end 
audio devotees.
> Some call them sound engineers, others refer to them as 'the sound 
guy' and some
> call them audiophiles. (I have seen this term spelled four different 
ways,
> wonder which one is actually correct?) There always has been, and 
always will
> be, someone who will go to the extreme, regardless of the venue, to 
have the
> latest or greatest fad or gimmick to enhance whatever. Just because 
someone pays
> a huge sum of money for a vintage boat anchor piece of equipment, 
does not mean
> that all who collect boat anchor equipment are 'fools'.    	
> 	
> I believe that we can all laugh at our own blunders or moments of 
insane vanity,
> or those of others, without having to resort to branding or name 
calling. It is
> one thing for you to say, "Boy, was I ever stupid! How could I have 
been such an
> idiot?" But if a stranger says that to you, the result is not apt to 
be a smile
> in return -  	
> 	
> So while we can all good naturedly laugh at each others moments of 
neuron
> synapse failure, let us not resort to labeling any group because of 
any one
> member of said groups extreme behavior. It is always best to avoid 
stereotyping,
> because most times the image portrayed is negative and hurtful. Which 
takes on a
> whole new perspective when it is 'you' who are being stereotyped. 	
> 	
> Duane W8DBF 	
>   
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