[Boatanchors] Re: Boatanchors digest, Vol 4 #157 - 8 msgs

rayfri [email protected]
Tue, 27 May 2003 15:12:52 -0600


I guess I missed the original email about what happened to you Duane. 
 Would you fill me in?
I have also had problems with neighbors and have tried working with 
them.  However, when it comes right down to where the rubber meets the 
road, I have had to, a few times, tell the neighbors to call their cable 
company to clean up TVI ... it's the cable company's responsibility not 
mine if there is a break in the cable that allows RF in...   I've also 
told them theyre just out of luck if I am getting into their CHEAP CHEAP 
CHEAP cordless phones from the local 5 and dime....  and when I've done 
all I can do, including reorienting antennas, and they STILL have tvi in 
their non cable TV, I tell them ... too bad so sad...  you buy junk TV's 
from Japan, you get interference problems...
I had the next door neighbor tell me that when I transmitted while she 
was using her computer, her computer would reboot....    Got a good 
laugh out of that one, and politely told her, "sorry, aint my problem." 
    She said she'd talk to the FCC and I referred her to the regulations 
that say in part, "you must accept any inferference caused to this device"
     I will go far to help a neighbor, but I will NOT EVER EVER close 
down my station ....  especially when I know it is not my fault, but the 
fault of some of this CRAP that is sold under the name of consumer 
electronics....
ray  wa7itz


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>   1. an extra halli sx 28 sale or trade pick up in glendale  az  lets get it outta here today! (Ed Sharpe)
>   2. My Station Is For Sale (Duane Fischer, W8DBF)
>   3. RE: My Station Is For Sale (Tony Martin)
>   4. Re: My Station Is For Sale (Gregory W. Moore)
>   5. Re: My Station Is For Sale (WBob)
>   6. Re: My Station Is For Sale (Kim Herron)
>   7. RE: My Station Is For Sale (Tony Martin)
>   8. Re: My Station Is For Sale ([email protected])
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>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:10:09 -0700
>From: "Ed Sharpe" <[email protected]>
>To: "Boatanchors mailing list" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: "Ed Sharpe" <[email protected]>
>Organization: Coury House / SMECC
>Subject: [Boatanchors] an extra halli sx 28 sale or trade pick up in glendale  az  lets get it outta here today!
>
>an extra halli sx 28 sale or trade pick up in glendale  az  lets get it
>outta here today!
>call me at 623-435-1522 for details.
>
>we have one in the collection this one is missing knobs it is a lot of
>weight to have under foot!
>
>each day it has to be moved around in the isles the more expensive it will
>get!
>
>Thanks!
>
>Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC
>
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>online at:
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>Message: 2
>From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 14:29:08 -0400
>Subject: [Boatanchors] My Station Is For Sale
>
>
>	
>Once again, the legal system penalizes the innocent and protects the guilty.
>Today I spent $300 for an attorney to tell me that my antenna destruction
>incident is a rock solid case, but cost prohibitive to pursue. I can not recover
>any legal fees or associated costs from the guilty parties and the costs
>associated with a civil suit against them to recover the damages will easily
>exceed the total of the damages. Yes, I could beat them in small claims court,
>but would probably never collect a cent. 	
>	
>Simply put, I win, but end up paying more than I can collect, if I ever collect
>it.	
>	
>I am so disgusted, that I have decided to sell my radio equipment. The joy I
>felt is gone. My happy dreams have been transformed into nightmares by
>irresponsible neighbors. Their blunders have already cost me nearly two thousand
>dollars, and that is money I can not afford to be throwing away when I am on a
>fixed income. 	
>	
>As many of you know, I do not use Hallicrafters for NCS operations. My vintage
>gear is all used for listening. Hence, I will not list the solid state items, or
>tube amplifiers, here. Write me direct for a list of that equipment and prices. 
>
>	
>When the three towers and nine antenna systems are taken down in June, I will
>post them here for sale. I am keeping two short-wave antennas and several
>receivers for SW listening. No Ham gear will remain.  	
>	
>Although I have never subscribed to the philosophy that Hell was actually here
>on Earth, sometimes it does make one wonder - 	
>	
>Duane Fischer, W8DBF		
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 3
>Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 14:31:38 -0400
>From: Tony Martin <[email protected]>
>Subject: RE: [Boatanchors] My Station Is For Sale
>To: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <[email protected]>,
>	[email protected]
>
>Duane,
>I am truly sorry to hear of your dilemma!  May I offer one suggestion?
>Rather than sell your gear, simply disconnect it, pack it away for a while
>and see if this is really what you want to do...maybe give yourself a year
>before making such a drastic suggestion.
>
>I wish you the best...and again, sorry that you find yourself in such a
>very undesirable situation.
>
>Good luck
>Tony, W4FOA
>
>
>
>
>Watch your thoughts; they become words.
>Watch your words; they become actions.
>Watch your actions; they become habits.
>Watch your habits; they become character.
>Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
>                         -Frank Outlaw
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Duane Fischer,
>W8DBF
>Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 2:29 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [Boatanchors] My Station Is For Sale
>
>
>
>
>Once again, the legal system penalizes the innocent and protects the guilty.
>Today I spent $300 for an attorney to tell me that my antenna destruction
>incident is a rock solid case, but cost prohibitive to pursue. I can not
>recover
>any legal fees or associated costs from the guilty parties and the costs
>associated with a civil suit against them to recover the damages will easily
>exceed the total of the damages. Yes, I could beat them in small claims
>court,
>but would probably never collect a cent.
>
>Simply put, I win, but end up paying more than I can collect, if I ever
>collect
>it.
>
>I am so disgusted, that I have decided to sell my radio equipment. The joy I
>felt is gone. My happy dreams have been transformed into nightmares by
>irresponsible neighbors. Their blunders have already cost me nearly two
>thousand
>dollars, and that is money I can not afford to be throwing away when I am on
>a
>fixed income.
>
>As many of you know, I do not use Hallicrafters for NCS operations. My
>vintage
>gear is all used for listening. Hence, I will not list the solid state
>items, or
>tube amplifiers, here. Write me direct for a list of that equipment and
>prices.
>
>
>When the three towers and nine antenna systems are taken down in June, I
>will
>post them here for sale. I am keeping two short-wave antennas and several
>receivers for SW listening. No Ham gear will remain.
>
>Although I have never subscribed to the philosophy that Hell was actually
>here
>on Earth, sometimes it does make one wonder -
>
>Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 15:16:55 -0400
>From: "Gregory W. Moore" <[email protected]>
>To: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <[email protected]>
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] My Station Is For Sale
>
>Duane,
>    As someone who did the same thing, years ago, I urge you not to sell 
>the equipment. When I came home from the military, 34 years ago, I 
>managed to scrape together enough cash to put down a payment on the home 
>we still occupy.  I also moved in, lock, stock, and boatanchors. 
>Included were 2 Eico 753's, a KWM-2 . a 75S1, and some homebrew stuff. I 
>happily erected some inverted vee's and a couple of verticals and 
>happily began to make QSO's.
>    My equipment was clean, yet, I had a neighbor who decided that the 
>sheer presence of the equipment was heard in her telephone, and also 
>caused the TV to go erratic, notwithstanding the fact that the 
>transmitter end of the coax cables were laying in plain sight on the 
>back roof.
>    There was so much trouble made, including a lawsuit against me, that 
>I YES, sold all of this wonderful gear for pennies on the dollar, only 
>keeping my keys, because my lightning bug was presented to me by the 
>Navy when I got my speed key certificate.
>
>    Years passed, and I operated other's stations simply to keep my hand 
>in, bought an R390 and ran a stealth longwire in the small area between 
>the roof and the upstairs ceiling (row home, long narrow lot).  My 
>interests turned to other pursuits, until an auto accident caused me to 
>become disabled with spinal injuries.  Since the FAA takes a dim view of 
>closed head injuries and commercial pilots, as well as the image of a 
>slowly walking fellow with a couple of canes getting into an aircraft, 
>well, that was gone too.  I know what depression feels like, and man, it 
>isn't good!!
>I realized that I had to do something to occupy yself, and keep 
>"working" as I am only, at this writing, 56, and thus need regular times 
>to keep myself from going nutz. --hi-- but since us boatanchor guys are 
>nutz anyway, I decided to put this to good use.
>
>    Then I made my decision, to hell with what others think (yup, you 
>guessed it, the same idjits still live next door. Well, I bought a Icom 
>IC-746 PRO, erected a GAP Titan DX Vertical, and am currently restoring 
>(YES) 2 Eico 753's, which is a s l o w project. I also have a R392, a 
>couple of URA-17s and my teletype gear which I am also restoring. I just 
>get others to help lift.
>
>    Once again, I was given a problem by the neighbors, but this time, I 
>knew what to do with interference problems. I fought back, with the 
>local club, the FCC, and managed to put them in their place.  Like you, 
>I am on a fixed income, but I refuse to give up the one thing which I 
>can still find pleasure in so doing.
>
>    I urge you, don't get down about this. If you wish to stop for a 
>while, then do so, but DO NOT sell your equipment. The years you have 
>put into it can never be recovered in monetary terms, and antennas can 
>be rebuilt. I have to get others to help with my antennas, I can't 
>climb. I urge you to reconsider your choice before you sell off your 
>fine, comfortable set of boatanchors. Once gone, they are irrecoverable..
>
>73 and don't give up the ship OM!!
>Greg Moore  WA3IVX / NNN0BVN
>
>Duane Fischer, W8DBF wrote:
>
>  
>
>>	
>>Once again, the legal system penalizes the innocent and protects the guilty.
>>Today I spent $300 for an attorney to tell me that my antenna destruction
>>incident is a rock solid case, but cost prohibitive to pursue. I can not recover
>>any legal fees or associated costs from the guilty parties and the costs
>>associated with a civil suit against them to recover the damages will easily
>>exceed the total of the damages. Yes, I could beat them in small claims court,
>>but would probably never collect a cent. 	
>>	
>>Simply put, I win, but end up paying more than I can collect, if I ever collect
>>it.	
>>	
>>I am so disgusted, that I have decided to sell my radio equipment. The joy I
>>felt is gone. My happy dreams have been transformed into nightmares by
>>irresponsible neighbors. Their blunders have already cost me nearly two thousand
>>dollars, and that is money I can not afford to be throwing away when I am on a
>>fixed income. 	
>>	
>>As many of you know, I do not use Hallicrafters for NCS operations. My vintage
>>gear is all used for listening. Hence, I will not list the solid state items, or
>>tube amplifiers, here. Write me direct for a list of that equipment and prices. 
>>
>>	
>>When the three towers and nine antenna systems are taken down in June, I will
>>post them here for sale. I am keeping two short-wave antennas and several
>>receivers for SW listening. No Ham gear will remain.  	
>>	
>>Although I have never subscribed to the philosophy that Hell was actually here
>>on Earth, sometimes it does make one wonder - 	
>>	
>>Duane Fischer, W8DBF		
>>
>>
>>
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>>** List Administrator - Duane Fischer, W8DBF/W9WZE **   
>>** For Assistance: [email protected] **         
>>$$ For vintage radio info, see the HCI web site $$      
>>http://www.w9wze.org    
>>
>>
>> 
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