[Boatanchors] new Ground system

Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:43:58 -0600

Don't you really like it that way.  Better to have comments and response 
from the listees than no response at all.  Isn't this part of what a list 
should be?  I have enjoyed this thread.

73, Jim, wd4air

>From: "Mark Bell" <[email protected]>
>To: "Boatanchors List" <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] new Ground system
>Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:34:01 -0500
>
>Your comments are well grounded, Duane !
>
>Mark K3ZX
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <[email protected]>
>To: "Gary Schafer" <[email protected]>; "Arthur Shulman"
><[email protected]>
>Cc: "Glen Zook" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
><[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] new Ground system
>
>
> > It shall never cease to amaze me, the volume of responses any question
>regarding
> > a station ground system invariably generates! The vast majority of Hams,
>and
> > radio devotees, either have an inadequate ground system or none at all.
>There
> > are several who actually have gone to the other end of the scale and
>committed
> > the ultimate sin of ground overkill. I am speaking of commercial 
>broadcast
> > stations ground systems for the Shack, on a smaller scale, of course.
> >
> > I spent a great deal of time carefully researching this subject. I
>designed, and
> > built, a station ground system that truly works, is efficient and does
>what one
> > is supposed to do, both in theory and in reality. No, I am not bragging 
>or
> > poking fun at anyone. What I have works and my years of NCS operation 
>with
> > effective erp and good receive ability demenstrate it to be so.
> >
> > It was once said by some wise philosopher, the name I know not, and I
>therefore
> > paraphrase his words here; that every human is born with two things; a
>rectum
> > and an opinion! There being little discernable difference between the 
>two.
> >
> > Enjoy the profusion of ground system comments, complaints, commentaries
>and
> > suggestions. Then be brave, build one that truly works. (grin)
> >
> > Duane W8DBF
> >
> > ----------
> > From: Gary Schafer <[email protected]>
> > To: Arthur Shulman <[email protected]>
> > Cc: Glen Zook <[email protected]>; [email protected];
> > [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] new Ground system
> > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:56 PM
> >
> > A lot depends on whether the soil is acidic or alkaline as to what it 
>eats
> > up.
> >
> > 73
> > Gary  K4FMX
> >
> >
> > Arthur Shulman wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you all! I stand corrected; of course it would depend on the 
>soil
> > > the wire is buried in. I did not have that experience over a period of 
>4
> > > years when I buried my radial/grounds. Just lucky, I guess.
> > >
> > > But I won't try that again. Thanks for the advice - well founded!
> > >
> > > Arthur Shulman
> > >
> > > Glen Zook wrote:
> > >
> > > > In most soils, the aluminum will "disappear" in less
> > > > than 6 months!  You can use galvanized electric fence
> > > > wire that is sold by the 1/4 and 1/2 mile reels at
> > > > home improvement centers.  The cost is normally under
> > > > $10 for 1/4 mile.  I have had some of that in the
> > > > ground for almost 30 years.  But, I know of several
> > > > local amateurs who put in thousands of feet of
> > > > aluminum wire for counterpoises for verticals that,
> > > > when they just happened to pull on the end of the
> > > > wire, about 6 inches came out.  The rest had basically
> > > > disentegrated.
> > > >
> > > > Glen, K9STH
> > > >
> > > > --- Arthur Shulman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Have you considered getting a 1000' reel of aluminum
> > > > #4 wire used for grounding TV masts? Real cheap, and
> > > > just as effective as copper for this purpose.
> > > >
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