[ARRL-OK] This will scare you!!! I never knew this...Copying Machine... important information

[Josee Dunn]

What is it with you egotistical elitist Hams who wouldn't lift one
finger to help a Tech get his Emcomm rig and ECV going fussing over
drivers in a copier?
Take some advice go to Wally World and purchase a printer/copier/scanner.
You can get them for $40.00.
If you can afford Ham (helping all mankind) gear you can afford a
$40.00 printer.

Joe Dunn, KF5AWW

On 5/2/10, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> For some additional info, here is a message I received from
> another friend in response to my original message.
>
> While tend to agree with Nate regarding the GENERAL veracity
> of CBS, this one doesn't SEEM to be open to left-wing bias.
>
> Mac
>
>
>
> ----  Another response from a different mail list  ----
>
> Scary indeed. Just goes to show there is no such thing as
> "privacy" in the digital age.
>
> The problem actually goes back farther than 2002 though.
> When I worked at Cornell University years ago, we were the
> "beta" test site for the Docutech line of copiers from Kodak
> (actually made by Canon Copiers using Kodak equipment). We
> had three of them. Even in 1998, they had a big hard drive
> in them.
>
> Fortunately, I was aware of that fact, and made very sure
> the hard drive was fully wiped before we gave up the lease
> on them. (I was the Facilities and Security Manager for the
> Cornell Business Systems, so this was part of my job).
>
> I know that several other places on campus had those machines..
> and they did not have any Security Manager in those places.
> Makes me wonder how much info went out with them when they
> were returned. Think about it....they copied student records..
> name, address, Social Security numbers, bank account and
> credit card info...all financial records, really.....,
> date of birth, etc...as well as student grades, courses the
> students took, and any and all student work that was
> submitted to the University...health records, you name it..
>
> A lot of these students go on to work for, or even become the
> CEOs of major companies....and all that info was probably
> still out there on those copiers.
>
> I wonder if the Syncrotron unit...that is what Cornell called
> the "atom smasher" that was used for research on campus...
> had one of those copiers? They did work for NASA, and many
> other government agencies, as well as private industry.
>
> That could be pretty scary if that info got into the wrong hands....
>
> ----  End of response  ----
>
>
>
>
> Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 14:19:25 -0500
> To: arrl-ok at mailman.qth.net
> From: cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net
> Subject: Re: [ARRL-OK] This will scare you!!! I never knew this...Copying
> Machine... important information
>
> At some level, Nate is right: the vast majority of the stuff on
> copiers is of no value. Identity theft is an easy thing to pull: all
> that anyone has to do is go to the court house and pull up any of a
> number of filing: social security numbers are all over those. Court
> documents are public -- anyone can go get copies unless the records
> have been specifically made otherwise. Many such copies are available on
> line.
>
> Crooks are crooks: they're fundamentally lazy, not exceptionally
> bright or well educated, and after easy money. The vast majority are
> not particularly tech savvy. There is a tremendous amount of havoc
> that could be wrought by tech savvy crooks, and we simply don't see
> it happening.
>
> Thus, I disagree that this is particularly scary. When they were
> living, my parents listened to police communications a lot. In doing
> this, they came to have a rather skewed view of the world: they
> became convinced that all the bad things they heard on the scanner
> was the norm and, as they became older and more infirm, they became
> more frightened by this skew. Don't fall into the same trap:don't
> confuse what is possible with what is plausible.
>
> It's probably a good and reasonable thing for the copy machine
> companies to either randomly encrypt each image, or delete them after
> printing is complete. Deletion is, however, no guarantee that the
> image is not recoverable. That said, it may be more important for the
> lease/resale companies to see to the deletion task. And it is very
> important for companies that bear responsibility for their own and
> their client's security to do this. If a security breach could be
> traced back to lax practices by the company, it would suffer extreme
> liability exposure.
>
> I disagree about the veracity of CBS, however: I trust their
> reporting far more than various other sources. CBS has done a service
> by informing us of how things work. It's up to us what to do with the
> information.
>
> Kim Elmore. N5OP 		 	   		
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