[Ares-races] VHF Marine Band question

Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:02:35 -0500

What part of "an amateur station" did you overlook in 97.403

Contrary to popular ham myth (and occasional editing errors in some
League publications), the FCC has repeatedly made it clear that Parts
97.403 and 97.405 both refer to emergency operation within the amateur
radio service -- a service which does not include frequencies allocated
to other services.  A Novice Class Operator can operate in an exclusive
Extra Class segment in a genuine emergency; but nothing in 97.### gives
any amateur radio operator any privileges one Hz outside the ham bands.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Abbott" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 14:30
Subject: RE: [Ares-races] VHF Marine Band question

> Hi Gary!
>
> Were you at the EC conference Saturday? If so I missed saying hello.
>
> I can also agree with Tom in interpreting 97.405. However look
carefully at
> 97.403 and I think you will find room for a "any frequency anywhere is
ok in
> emergency" meaning when the "emergency" is defined as I did in my post
> (immediate safety of life and protection of property).
>
> Sec. 97.403  Safety of life and protection of property.
>
>     No provision of these rules prevents the use by an amateur station
> of any means of radiocommunication at its disposal to provide
essential
> communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human
> life and immediate protection of property when normal communication
> systems are not available.
>
>
> I interpret that to fit with my proposed intended use of a VHF Marine
Radio
> in a land station (ARES/RACES EOC shack). Now we are not going to ask
how
> the fishing is going on a nice day when we want to call in sick :-).
>
> Maybe someone from ARRL is a member of this list and can clarify this?
>
>
> 73,
>
> rick WX9M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Gary Payne
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 12:54 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Ares-races] VHF Marine Band question
>
>
> Rick,
>
> I agree with N4AOF's comments. Anywhere in the FCC regs where there is
> mention of an emergency exception to the general rules it only covers
> stations already licensed in that service. This is true for Ham,
Marine and
> GMRS that I am aware of. If you wish the citations beyond the great
job
> that N4AOF did, I can provide them.
>
> Gary Payne, N9VE
>
> At 08:01 AM 11/10/03, you wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >Our group just picked up a used VHF Marine Radio. I was going to get
this
> up
> >and running in our club station which is our backup EOC. The intent
was
> that
> >we could possibly assist in any emergency that happens on the water.
We are
> >on the Wisconsin River and there are numerous recreational lakes in
the
> >county. I know you do not need a FCC license for VHF Marine but the
rules
> >say you cannot xmit when boat is on land. So then I read more of the
rules
> >and am confused. They mention coastal stations and other public land
> >stations and these seem to require a license. I wonder if we could
still
> >utilize this radio on land but only in emergency situations, kind of
like
> >the any frequency anywhere is ok in emergency (damage to life or
property
> >threatening of course). Can anyone shed some light on this? Any other
ARES
> >units doing a similar thing?
> >
> >
> >
> >Rick Abbott-WX9M
> >Emergency Coordinator
> >Portage County
> >Wisconsin ARES/RACES
> >[email protected]
> >
> >
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