[ARC5] Radio Beacon DXing

[Bill Stewart]

Yep, the same ID can be used on several diff. freqs/and locations. The LE I 
refered to went way back and I see on the RNA data base, it was decom. in
2015. I have logged several with the same ID, but far diff. locations. The
RNA data base gives several ways to identify a beacon....lsb/usb off-set freqs.,
timing, published carrier freq and sometimes notes about the keying such as
mis-keying the ID, etc. The Canadian beacons have a dash-after-id (DAID).
If Roy heard the DAID, then it would be in Canada. The RNA is the best data
base for these beacons. Info is generally fresh from listeners logs. 
73 de Bill K4JYS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Morrow" <kk5f at earthlink.net>
Cc: "arc5" <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>, "Roy Morgan" <k1lky68 at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 1:30:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ARC5] Radio Beacon DXing

"LE" is a great example for potential NDB DXing errors.  NDB LE is heard on 350 kHz in NC, 242 kHz in KY, and 240 kHz in ME, as shown by entry of "LE" here:

   http://www.airnav.com/navaids/

NDB IDs are NOT unique.  It is very very unlikely the what Roy heard was in BC Canada.  Usually multiple NBDs using the same ID are on different frequencies, but AFAIK not even that is quaranteed when great distances separate the NDBs.

Mike / KK5F

-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Stewart <cwopr at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 15, 2020 11:33 AM
>To: Mike Morrow <kk5f at arrl.net>
>Cc: Roy Morgan <k1lky68 at gmail.com>, arc5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>, Steve Fick <n3te at arrl.net>
>Subject: Re: [ARC5] Radio Beacon DXing
>
>Mike, a lot of the NDBs are being decommissioned or just left to die, with out
>maint. I think there is a trend to go to some type of GPS...not sure how
>that works. I also did some listening back in the '60s and used a BC-1206,
>which I still have, but haven't turned it on in many years. The airport at
>Raleigh-Durham had a NDB....think it might have been LE, that broadcasted the
>WX. Don't think any do that any more. Plus I remember flying as a passenger in
>a sgl eng. jobby around eastern NC a few times, we tuned in a NDB and followed
>the beam to the airport. Looks like a simple and workable system to me....why the
>change?
>73 de Bill K4JYS
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike Morrow" <kk5f at earthlink.net>
>To: "Roy Morgan" <k1lky68 at gmail.com>, "arc5" <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
>Cc: "Steve Fick" <n3te at arrl.net>
>Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 12:21:14 PM
>Subject: Re: [ARC5] Radio Beacon DXing
>
>Have you entered the navaid ID into this lookup system to verify your findings?
>
>  http://www.airnav.com/navaids/
>
>NDBs were far more numerous and interesting 50 years ago, when weather and airport information was often broadcast in voice on the frequency.  In the mid-1960s I used a BC-453-A receiver for that sometimes, but that receiver was far more entertaining listening to merchant marine Morse coast and ship stations from 410 to 510 kHz.  That's all been long gone for more than two decades now, so I seldom tune that range of frequencies now.
>
>Mike/ KK5F
>>-The antenna was 
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