[ARC5] [Milsurplus] RAK RAL Shipping

[John Watkins]

Glen, I have used the 4X8 sheets of insulation to ship R-390s, Harris radios, etc.  heavy stuff.  It is easy to cut and basically make an inner box out of.  About 3/4” in thickness and does absorb shock well.  I do then double box, so in effect triple box these radios.  Never a complaint yet.  The sheets are cheaper than styrofoam and can be reused at the other end of the journey.  One guy wrote that he used the insulation for his Dog house, even the Dog made out.  I get the stuff at Home Depot, much cheaper and better than other packing material.

John WD5ENU 

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> On Dec 29, 2017, at 08:45, J Mcvey via ARC5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Peanuts are worthless for shipping heavy pieces, not to mention the mess they make while unpacking!
> For the more delicate units, I bubble wrap the radio, encase it in a tight cardboard container ( sometimes a cylinder), then use Styrofoam
> or several cardboard baffles around it inside the outer box. The packing should be fairly tight, to avoid shifting.
> 
> After all, there's good reason why manufacturers ship their products in Styrofoam... it works!
> 
> 
> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 8:06 PM, Ed# via ARC5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> and  peanuts when loose are a  curse   when you unpack the  box...  peanuts in  bags are useful though...
>  
> In a message dated 12/28/2017 5:53:34 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, milsurplus at mailman.qth.net writes:
> The problem with air pack, etc., is that the first time the unit is dropped, the absorbing disappears and the unit is rattling around the box.  Pelspan (styrofoam "peanuts") settle and leave large gaps in the protection.
> 
> 
> 
> Sheets of styrofoam work very well.  For almost 10-years, I owned the Motorola reconditioned equipment center for the south-central United States.  We used "foam in place" which is one step better than styrofoam sheets.  Shipments often exceeded 50-pounds and, in those 10-years, we had exactly 1-package damaged.  That was when UPS ran a forklift "tong" through the box!  For crated items, we used styrofoam sheets and there were no shipments damaged.
> 
> 
>  
> Glen, K9STH 
> 
> Website: http://k9sth.net
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> 
> From: David Stinson <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>
> To: Arc5 at mailman.qth.net; Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net 
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 12:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARC5] [Milsurplus] RAK RAL Shipping
> 
> I'm sorry, guys, but I just cannot wrap my head
> around that stiff blue wallboard being an
> effective shock absorber.  I'd like to see some
> valid studies on that.  Pack a radio in a box with
> that stiff blue board, put an accelerometer on one
> side and smack the other with a weight.  See how
> much shock energy is transmitted through the box
> and therefore, through the radio.  Do the same
> with the same radio in a box more conventionally
> packed and I think one would see a lot of that
> shock energy absorbed in compressing the much more
> "compressible" material like AirPack.
> If it works for you, God bless you.  I just can't
> bring myself to trust it.
> 
> 
> 
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