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Sun Jan 17 23:29:09 EST 2016
Actually, under OSHA beginning in 1969 deaths per 100k dropped from 18 per 100K to 3.6 per 100K as of 2009. In 1937 deaths per 100K was 42 per 100K. So there was a downward trend in industrial deaths, but to say that OSHA has not been effective is anything but correct. As one who has worked in the telecommunications industry for over 50 years I certainly cannot complain about the electrical safety enhancements brought about by OSHA and related work place safety measures.
As one who can remember the working environment in the early 1960s where it was quite common for a millwright (ME) to have to hang onto to a working overhead crane in motion with his knees while trouble shooting a control relay with 440 and 880 VAC feeds with no protection and only a "Wiggly" as a test instrument. You'd never see that today in a factory operating under OSHA rules and regulations.
Cheer's Bob, KE6F
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From: Peter Gottlieb <kb2vtl at gmail.com>
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On 1/17/2016 7:22 PM, Bruce Long via ARC5 wrote:
> /
> You speak the gospel truth, Brian. Designing for safety is treated in America
> as a crime of psychotics and socialists and it is the patriotic duty of every
> American to live dangerously by owning and using shoddily made electrical
> appliances. Every safety improvement made in American products has been done
> under threat of litigation, not by our elected representatives working to give
> us a safe and healthy environment. It's been a rich harvest for product
> liability lawyers for decades./
>
> Perhaps a little off topic but I remember reading many years ago that 30 years
> of OSHA ( the Federal government work place agency here in the US) regulation
> and inspections led to no detectable improvement in workplace injuries and
> fatalities. This sorta kinda makes sense to me. If you are dumb enough to
> work live electrical wires using an OSHA mandated non-conductive fiberglass
> step ladder instead of an aluminum step ladder is not likely to make a whole
> lot of different.
>
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> *From:* J Mcvey via ARC5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> *To:* Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com>; Arden Allen <gumbear at pacbell.net>
> *Cc:* Boatanchors List <boatanchors at theporch.com>; ARC-5 List
> <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>; Robert <w4rl at bellsouth.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 17, 2016 3:23 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [ARC5] [BoatAnchors] 125 VAC Line? Make Your BA's Happy, Cheap.
>
> Nicola Tesla used to refer to voltage as "pressure". I think it stemmed from
> an ohms law water analogy that was common in his time. Perhaps it stuck as
> common usage in Australia?
> It's obscure here in the states...
>
>
> On Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:42 AM, Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> ATTENTION COMRADE ARDEN!
>
> Put down that dangerously hot, unlicensed, soldering iron and step away from
> the workbench! The Safety Police will be arriving shortly to confiscate all
> that dangerous unlicensed radio equipment with high tension, err high
> pressure, err, high emf, err high voltage power supplies with Exposed Wiring.
> It has come to our attention that most of your radios were manufactured by
> Evil Corporations (redundant) led by Evil Executives (redundant again) who
> attended Business Schools where they teach courses like "How to electrocute
> babies for fun and profit".
> In return for the seized radio equipment, you will be issued 1 ea. D-Cell
> battery and a small quantity of conductive paint.
> A Safety Monitor Telescreen will be installed in your home to ensure that you
> don't swallow or otherwise misuse the D-Cell and paint.
> Have Fun!
>
> From Your Big Brothers at the Department of Redundancy Department
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 2:07 AM, Arden Allen <gumbear at pacbell.net
> <mailto:gumbear at pacbell.net>> wrote:
>
> .......Just as a point of interest, the number of electrocutions through
>
> 'playing with' 230 Vac is almost negligible. It is virtually
> impossible even for idiots to get across the mains - modern connectors
> make touching live circuitry extremely difficult. This is not the case
> in the USA.
>
> You speak the gospel truth, Brian. Designing for safety is treated in
> America as a crime of psychotics and socialists and it is the patriotic
> duty of every American to live dangerously by owning and using shoddily
> made electrical appliances. Every safety improvement made in American
> products has been done under threat of litigation, not by our elected
> representatives working to give us a safe and healthy environment. It's
> been a rich harvest for product liability lawyers for decades.
>
> Arden Allen
> KB6NAX
>
>
>
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