[ARC5] replacing C3 and C8 of BC453A
J Mcvey via ARC5
arc5 at mailman.qth.net
Sun Feb 1 10:35:03 EST 2015
If you ever have any doubt what the composition , value or tolerance of the caps might be, the original military manuals are quite specific.
I am presently working on a BC654 where I encountered several white hollow tube capacitors marked .008 . The manual said they were mica. I suspect that they were, since the couple random samples I took out to test were still the correct value and had virtually no leakage.That saved me the time and money to replace them. Others that had large rectangular plastic cases LOOKED like mica types but were listed as paper. Sure enough, these were very leaky.
BTW, as a military piece, I found the BC654 to be a disappointment on many levels...or maybe I just have a natural prejudice against floating ground series string sets...??? It's also very difficult work on or test in a disassembled state.Perhaps the army wanted a no-frills, easy to operate short distance radio, and that's exactly what they got!
On Friday, January 30, 2015 4:19 PM, Richard Knoppow <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
The small tubular body (hollow) caps are ceramics. The small
white ones are usually temperature compensating caps and must be
replaced with a cap of the same TC. Also, its exact location may be
important. These caps rarely go bad but can. There are larger
"dog-bone" caps that are often brown, these are also ceramic caps. They
show up in the Collins 51J/R-388 and likely many other places. These
also rarely go bad but can so are not above suspicion. Most other
ceramics found in boatanchor radios are disc ceramics. Again these are
pretty reliable but many of them are Class-2 and do have an ageing
curve. One of the common defects is fracturing of the case where the
leads enter due to mechanical stress.
There are two types of mica caps: Silvered mica and stacked
mica. Silvered mica are very stable and were once considered to be
extremely reliable. The mica dielectric is electroplated with silver as
the electrode. These are the caps that suffer from silver-mica disease
from oxidation and migration of the silver. The stacked type use mica
dielectric but have interleaved foil electrodes. They are usually made
with the stack under pressure and sealed. This type was mainly used as
a high-voltage capacitor. General Radio used this type of construction
for its standard caps so they can be very stable. AFAIK, they do not
suffer from silver-mica disease and do not have the symptoms of unstable
capacitance. RCA at one time made capacitors of this type under a
patent they held. They can be found in the AR-88 receiver and in some
other RCA products. They are usually lozenge shaped and sometimes
colored in an odd pinkish purple color but I've seen others that are
brown. These appear to be quite stable. When mica was in short supply
during WW-2 RCA used flat package paper caps in place of these. Most of
them were made by either Micamold or Solar. In my AR-88 all were bad but
the couple of RCA micas still used were good.
Ceramic caps have low parasitic inductance and will work in many
applications where mica caps were used but are not stable enough for
timing circuits. Modern plastic film caps seem to have very low
parasitic inductance and will work in many circuits that used ceramic or
mica. They are very stable, have low leakage and ESR, and little
dielectric absorption. The latter is of no significance in most RF or
audio circuits but can be in timing and some measurement circuits.
They do not become degraded with time under voltage as do paper caps,
On 1/30/2015 12:18 PM, Roy Morgan wrote:
> On Jan 30, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon <kgordon2006 at frontier.com> wrote:
>
>> C-3, 100 pfd, is the white tubular capacitor on the bottom of the "socket" for
>> the antenna coil ...
>> And C-8, 200 pfd, is the white tubular job mounted on the bottom of the
>> mixer-tube's socket.
> Do I understand correctly that these small white-bodied tubular capacitors are ceramic?
>
> I found a shorted one in an SX-88 front end. It had fried a plate dropping resistor and itself and was in a quite in accessible place.
>
> Roy
>
> Roy Morgan
> RoyMorgan at alum.mit.edu
> K1LKY Since 1958
>
>
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Richard Knoppow
1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
WB6KBL
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