[ARC5] [Boatanchors] MEK, benzene, acetone for Q dope.

Mon Mar 10 20:08:25 EDT 2014

I probably should have noted that I was speaking/writing of carbon tet!

Mac, K2GkK in OKC

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> On Mar 10, 2014, at 17:47, "Andrew Howard" <howa1554 at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> It was used in fire extinguishers as well. The small brass ones that were used in trucks, etc.
> 
> Andy, WA4KCY
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "D C _Mac_ Macdonald" <k2gkk at hotmail.com>
> To: "AKLDGUY ." <neilb0627 at gmail.com>; "boatanchors" <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] [ARC5] MEK, benzene, acetone for Q dope.
> 
> 
>> I used it quite often in the basement to clean the rails of my Lionel train track sections.  I guess I quit that in time to "live long and prosper!
>> 
>> Mac, K2GKK/5 in OKC, OK
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 14:47, "AKLDGUY ." <neilb0627 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When I was a technician in the telecommunications industry in the late
>>> 1960's we used carbon tetrachloride to clean switch and relay contacts.
>>> This was a liquid that came in small bottles. We poured it on rags and
>>> brushes with bare fingers and no breathing protection.
>>> 
>>> Within a few years carbon tet was declared highly toxic and promptly
>>> dropped from use. I never heard of any study into long term effects or
>>> follow up on those who had used it.
>>> 
>>> 73 de Neil ZL1ANM
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:35 AM, J. Forster <jfor at quikus.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If you can regulate CO2 on a pretext, you can equally regulate other
>>>> metabolic wastes on a similar pretext.
>>>> 
>>>> -John
>>>> 
>>>> =========
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Pee and Poo don't frighten me.  Nevertheless I avoid exposure if I can
>>>>> I agree occasional MEK exposure likely has very small risk---- but if I
>>>>> can remove pint with something else, I'll use that something else.  If
>>>>> more benign paint removers don't entirely do the job, I get my MEK- and
>>>>> nitrial gloves and work outside- up wind-----
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also EPA has nothing to do with MSDS
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not particularly upset with President Nixon and Watergate----- but
>>>>> HE's the $#%* that created the EPA  I can't forgive him for that
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Monday, March 10, 2014 2:59 PM, Ronnie Hull <w5sum at comcast.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Talk about beating a dead horse..good golly..,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Ronnie's IPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Bruce Long <coolbrucelong at yahoo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In my opinion MSDS warnings are for chemical use that occurs in an
>>>>>> industrial setting not "industrial exposure".   It is true there are
>>>>>> some odd results, such as rubbing alcohol in a home bathroom being
>>>>>> "unregulated" and an another bottle of the same stuff at work without a
>>>>>> MSDS sticker makes the employer selectable to a serious fine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However it is a mistake to think MSDS warnings can be safely ignored or
>>>>>> discounted for occasional home use.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> MEK scares me and I avoid its use at home if I can and use full
>>>>>> precautions when I can't avoid use.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Monday, March 10, 2014 11:56 AM, J. Forster <jfor at quikus.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> MSDSs are for Industrial Exposure...  40 hours per week for many years.
>>>>>> Not for occasional, casual use.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can die from drinking water or eating carrots too.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -John
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> =====================
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>> Here is the Material Safety Data Sheet for the MEK. They always sound
>>>>>>> scary,
>>>>>>> but with the toxicity at greater than 2 gram per kilo you would have to
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