[ARC5] Penetrating Oils

[D C _Mac_ Macdonald]

I know lots of folks who swear by "Dawn" 
dishwashing soap/detergent for everything! 
 
Many others recommend "baby" shampoo as a 
gentle cleaner. 
 
As always, test before using. 
 
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> From: 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
> To: jfor at quikus.com; k2gkk at hotmail.com
> CC: arc5 at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Penetrating Oils
> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:14:17 -0800
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com>
> To: "D C _Mac_ Macdonald" <k2gkk at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "ARC-5 Mail List" <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Penetrating Oils
> 
> 
> > Are you sure?
> >
> > I've used Fantastik for decades w/o issues. OTOH, 409 does 
> > cause problems
> > with some plastics.
> >
> > -John
> 
> I don't know the difference between Formula 409 and 
> Fantastic but have read similar warnings. I have a 
> household cleaner from the 99cent store that is quite 
> effective but caused the labels on an old typewriter to run. 
> Fortunately, I had used it in only one place. I have to 
> agree with Mike that you must test anything you want to use.
> Probably the least harmful cleaner is plain liquid 
> dishwashing detergent. It's also surprisingly effective.
> Other stuff in this thread are penetrating oils and rust 
> removers. Most rust removers use a type of chemical called a 
> reducing agent. These combine with the oxygen in oxidized 
> metals. Similar substances are used as photographic 
> developers. The most common reducing agent in rust removers 
> seems to be phosphoric acid, that's what's in Naval Jelly. 
> Another is oxalic acid, used in cleaners like Zud and 
> Barkeeper's Friend. Either can remove nickel or chrome 
> plating if left for too long. The MSDS for some rust 
> removers, such as Evapo-Rust, don't list any of the 
> ingredients. Evapo-Rust claims none of its ingredients are 
> hazardous.
> I have no idea about penetrating oils other than my 
> experience is that WD-40 is not very effective. I have used 
> Liquid Wrench and PB Blaster successfully. Kroil and 
> AeroKroil are frequently recommended but I have not tried 
> either.
> None of these substances is a good lubricant, once the 
> parts are free they should be cleaned and lubricated with 
> some normal oil or grease.
> 
> 
> --
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles
> WB6KBL
> dickburk at ix.netcom.com 
>