[ARC5] Lend-Lease (was P-40 Found in Desert)

Sat May 12 18:08:55 EDT 2012

Hi Dennis,
Thank you for this.  I'm pleased to have your correction, and from a
public source too.
I completely misunderstood this, and suspect I got the wrong info from
what would be considered a'reliable' source.  Just shows the value of
checking/asking.

Still, I like the illusion of an incredibly generous neighbour/ally. 
Pity to have lost that.

-- 
  Leslie Smith
  vk2bcu at operamail.com

On Sat, May 12, 2012, at 02:50 PM, Dennis DuVall wrote:
> Lot of Google hits on this question, see
> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6215847.stm 
>  > for ex.
> 
> Dennis D.  W7QHO
> Glendale, CA
> 
> **********************
> On May 12, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Leslie Smith wrote:
> 
> > Hello List,
> > I would like to check the point that "UK paid all its bills".
> > I understand that no account was kept of lend-lease either to the UK  
> > or
> > to Russia.
> > I would like to have this confirmed (or denied) by a competent  
> > historian
> > using this list.
> >
> > I think this (lend-lease) was one of the most astonishing acts of
> > generosity in history.
> > D-Day and the losses by the 8th Air Army was more generous (in terms  
> > of
> > the cost to USA).
> > As I understand, USA began to supply lend-lease before Pearl Harbour,
> > due to some ingenious "politick-ing" on the part of that greatest of  
> > US
> > Presidents, Rooseveldt.  I remember in April '45 (funeral oration or
> > more likely in the press) it was said that men would remember his name
> > in 100 years, fall to their knees and say, "Thank God".   Well it's
> > true.  We should do that.  US has seen a number of brilliant  
> > Presidents
> > and FDR stands shoulder to shoulder with the very best.
> >
> > Returning to lend-lease - That's the reason for my interest in "Uk  
> > paid
> > all it's bills".
> > I don't believe the USA put in a bill.
> >
> > The other person we should thank is Eleanor R's policy for refugees  
> > and
> > the UN policy on refugees that resulted (1948.)  She was  prescient in
> > that regard.
> >
> > 73s
> >
> >
> >  Leslie Smith
> >  vk2bcu at operamail.com
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 12, 2012, at 03:02 PM, Geoff wrote:
> >> I believe the UK paid all its bills which is more than some countries
> >> did.
> >>
> >> Yes, 260 Squadron was flown by the RCAF if the current reports from
> >> Canada
> >> and the UK are correct. Hopefully they were as good at records  
> >> keeping as
> >> the Germans.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Robert Eleazer" <releazer at earthlink.net>
> >> To: <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:16 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [ARC5] P-40 Found in Desert
> >>
> >>
> >>> Looking on some of the enthusiast websites, it seems that based on
> >>> squadron codes barely viewable on the side, the airplane belonged  
> >>> to 260
> >>> Squadron, an RAF outfit.  It needed some repair to the landing  
> >>> gear so a
> >>> pilot, apparently Flt Sgt Dennis Copping, was directed to fly it  
> >>> with the
> >>> wheels down to a repair center.  It had long been assumed that he  
> >>> got lost
> >>> and ran out of fuel, ending up MIA.
> >>>
> >>> But it does not look like the wheels were down when it landed, or  
> >>> else it
> >>> would likely have flipped on its back.  The pilot may have got the  
> >>> wheels
> >>> up before making belly landing, which would be a wise thing to do.
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if perhaps since they were sending it to a repair center  
> >>> they
> >>> yanked the regular radio and put in that battery pack radio.  A  
> >>> view of
> >>> the cockpit shows what looks like a cable with an antenna  
> >>> connector on it
> >>> sticking up from somewhere.
> >>>
> >>> As for Aussie P-40's in the Middle East, there is a book on the  
> >>> subject
> >>> entitled "Desert Warriors: Australian P-40 Pilots at War in the  
> >>> Middle
> >>> East" which is available on half.com for only $252.25.   Y'all  
> >>> better
> >>> hurry because David is no doubt gonna jump right on that!
> >>>
> >>> I fully expect that airplane to be restored to flyable condition.   
> >>> I have
> >>> seen far worse wrecks returned to the air recently.
> >>>
> >>> And by the Lend Lease rules under which that airplane was provided  
> >>> the
> >>> U.K. could either pay us for it or hand it back when they were done.
> >>>
> >>> Wayne
> >>> WB5WSV
> >>>
> >>>
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