[ARC5] WWII aircraft microphone and audio circuit wiring question
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jcoward5452 at aol.com
Sat Oct 1 13:34:07 EDT 2011
Thanks for the replies Gentlemen,
Next question: How was the shielding "dressed" at the connectors? What I've seen is a wire soldered to the shield and then backed out of the shell and secured to a screw of the cable clamp useing a crimped lug. How might this be done with "A.R.C." type connectors with the wire loom?
Thanks,
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Hanz <aaf-radio-1 at aafradio.org>
To: arc5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: [ARC5] WWII aircraft microphone and audio circuit wiring question
Well, there was a valid reason that I equivocated in my answer, since I
idn't want to get everyone mired in the minutia. Again, from the
ocuments I have here, it all depends on both the aircraft and the
pecific interphone system involved. The earlier USAAC systems up
hrough RC-34 have a note that states "If audio howl or feedback occurs
n any installation, the microphone and headphone circuits may require
hielded wire"...thus leaving it up to the aircraft manufacturer. The
ater RC-36 installation instructions say what Mike described below.
hat policy clearly evolved over time, and by the time they hit the
eplacement of all the BC-347 interphone amplifiers with the AN/AIC-2 in
arly 1945, the note read, "The wire attached to terminal 7 [input
erminal] of the interphone amplifier and terminal 4 [ring of the mic
lug] of each [BC-1366] jack box shall be shielded." The later AN/AIC-4
nd following interphone systems followed the example I linked in my
revious e-mail, and added radio receiver outputs to the list, as in the
C-36. The Navy seems to have preferred shielded wiring only on the
icrophone lead, and included shielded wire in their multi-conductor
ables used for interphone interconnection for that purpose. The note
n the RL-7 manual, for example, says "Particular notice should be taken
hen examining Figure 14 regarding the two single shielded wires in this
able, which connect to terminals #1 and #10 on the cable receptacle.
hese are microphone circuits and are shielded to prevent crosstalk
etween the talking circuits and the balance of the system."
So, now that everyone's eyes are glazed over - like everything in this
usiness, "it all depends..." :-)
73,
ike
On 9/30/2011 10:35 PM, Mike Morrow wrote:
Mike Hanz wrote:
> Yup. The earlier systems usually described the usage in notes on the
> drawings, rather than showing each input that was shielded.
The RC-36 (with the BC-347-* interphone microphone amplifier) generally
utilized shielded cables on three of the ten circuits that typically came
into the BC-366 crew jack box. I have several BC-366 boxes that were cut
out of aircraft with cable stubs still remaining, and they reflect what's
listed below.
Those three shielded cables carried:
BC-366 Signal
Pin 1 AF output from the SCR-269 ADF receiver (BC-433).
Pin 6 AF output from the SCR-287 liaison receiver (BC-348) and
from the liaison transmitter (BC-375) sidetone.
Pin 10 AF output from the SCR-274-N command receivers (BC-453, 454, 455) and
from the command transmitter modulator (BC-456) sidetone.
None of the microphone audio input circuits (interphone amp, command, liaison)
ere
shielded. I guess it wasn't necessary with the low impedance carbon
icrophones
and the high DC excitation currents flowing through them.
It surprises me that the AF outputs of the receivers required shielding, since
none of these outputs were amplified by the interphone system. Perhaps the
relatively high impedance (even when "low") in an electrically noisy
nvironment
made that necessary. But shielding was only required if there was more than
en
feet of separation between the receiver and the interphone jack boxes.
Mike / KK5F
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