[Antennas] Radial Wires VS a wire or screen mesh

[Idle-Tyme]

Cool,

And  how many actual wires?  full sized?  IE: "Tuned"?

and from things I have read,, something like yours with a system of 
raised like you have with as few as like 4 or 8 equal a ground mounted 
that has like the conventional 120.

Yes?  No?
Joe WB9SBD

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K1TTT wrote:
> Mine are 10' up.
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> Subject: Re: [Antennas] Radial Wires VS a wire or screen mesh
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> How high are the raised Radials?
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> Joe WB9SBD
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> I use 2"x4" mesh fence wire under my raised radials on my 80m 4-square.
> When I first did the installation I did measurements as I added radials to
> the first vertical and then as I rolled out 150'x4' in a cross pattern under
> the vertical.  There was much more change going from 4 to 8 raised radials
> than there was in adding the screen, but it did seem to help a bit.  The
> wire in that fencing is much heavier than chicken wire and I have gotten 5
> or 6 years out of it so far.  I roll it up in the spring so I can cut
> grass/weed under it and roll it out again before the fall contests and snow
> start flying.
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> David Robbins K1TTT
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: K2RS [mailto:K2RSonline at comcast.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 02:21
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> Subject: Re: [Antennas] Radial Wires VS a wire or screen mesh
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> The contest station with the chicken-wire ground system for its 160
> antennas is always near the top of the multi-multi category in major DX
> contests and manages to rack up lots of Qs on 160 meters. So, while the
> chicken wire might not be optimal, it works in the real world and, in
> the end, that's all that really counts.
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> Jack   K2RS
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> This is probably fine as far as it goes.  The problem is that with only
> 4 rolls of chicken wire, there is still a lot of soil between the
> conductive mesh.  The idea of using a large number of wire radials is to
> provide a path for the RF displacement current back to the base of the
> antenna that only involves a very short distance for current flowing in
> the poorly conductive soil until it reaches a good conductor.
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