[Antennas] B&W folded dipole

Chuck O'Neal [email protected]
Sat, 15 Feb 2003 21:25:29 -0500


Chris, nice rant also. The man asked what makes a ham.
I replied a real ham can make his own dipole.  I wasn't commenting=20
on the B&W per se, although it was relevant to his rant.
If you didn't understand the K1MAN moron reference, your loss.=20
Ed felt compelled to bring in that in for some reason, so I obliged.

What's the big deal with the commercial stuff?  Not relevant, but=20
since you bring it up...Yes, I probably designed some of that=20
equipment you are a technicianon if it's Harris...also designed=20
several HF broadcast arrays in use today for 100KW to 250
KW output.  These are 12 to 14.5 dB gain systems. I had=20
my First Phone when they were a First Phone, got that license
when I was 15 yrs old.  Talk technical?...Sure! fire away!!!!=20
Know your opponent, and remember, salt may go well with your crow.
73,
Chuck...K1KW
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: [email protected]=20
  To: Chuck O'Neal=20
  Cc: Ed ; [email protected]=20
  Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [Antennas] B&W folded dipole


  Chuck,
  I CAN and HAVE made a dipole...SO WHAT???
  I also can build a FM broadcast antenna that could handle 10KW=20
  or more of power...can you??? Well if you cant, BIG DEAL!! SO I can
  do something you cannot....OHHH am "I" supposed to be a big man
  now?? hardly....but by your posting, I SHOULD be! (enjoy crow?)

  I HAVE used B&Ws in the past.....for my remote base operations where
  I DO NOT have a tuner and operated the radio via a UHF or phone line
  link, the B&W was a decent COMPROMISE....(and we all know you dont get
  something for nothing in that respect!) For my HOME operation, I WOULD
  put up a regular dipole; IF I had the room for a 160 or 80mtr antenna!
  which I donot...but I DO have room for a B&W (just barely..)...
  BUT I would run a 93ft dipole with ladder line (IF I had it) and a
  tuner (which I DO have)......but again, its all what you WANT to=20
  use it for...and whats available...

  NO, the B&W is NOT the best antenna below 10 MHz...its performance=20
  drops off below 10MHz and by the time you get to 80m, its pretty poor
  compared to a dipole...but then so is a mobile antenna...FUNNY, I=20
  dont see any mobile ops trying to run a full size dipole...they
  use WHAT WORKS....poorly as it may..BUT it works...and thats the
  name of the game..

  NOW if you have a problem with that, then YOU belong where you=20
  suggested he go with morons.

  U wanta talk technical?? I'm game with 35KW FM and 50KW AM (ALL
  transistorized/125% Asym. PD Modulated) xmtrs as well as the AM=20
  active tower arrays I have worked on; including the famous 12 tower =
nite
  site (original KLIF)@1190kHz in Dallas! Had to get back to antennas!:)

  Chris
  WB5ITT
  FCC Commercial PG-9-5322
  Asst Radio Chief Engineer
  Liberman Broadcasting, Houston

  I am off this soapbox and hope this reflector can return to
  technical and FRIENDLY discussions...and not put downs with no
  basis for them (as yours was!)
  --------------------------------------------------------------------

  Chuck O'Neal wrote:
  >=20
  > Nice rant Ed.  To answer your question, a real ham could make a =
simple
  > dipole.  This is a technical hobby and here you are on the Antenna =
reflector.
  > Can you make a dipole?  If not, go join K1MAN and the few morons =
that follow
  > this nutcase and have a ball...
  > 73,
  > Chuck...K1KW
  >
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