[Antennas] Re: From transmission lines to tuners;Simulator

Sat, 21 Dec 2002 23:24:39 -0600

That Russian proverb applies equally to tailors, carpenters, surgeons,
and mohels.

Dave        W9LYA
What wrought doG hath?

On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 03:55:19 +0300 "igor sokolov" <[email protected]> writes:
> > Remember that the vast majority of hams are not rf engineers nor 
> are
> > they interested in obtaining
> > the equipment and programs and  spend countless hours studying 
> various
> > theories.
> 
> The above statement is may be true for the US but sure not for me 
> and many
> of my ham radio friends. There are many of us who enjoy learning new 
> things
> and that is why we have chosen this hobby. I would rather prefer 
> many hours
> of studying and modeling then even more hours of cutting and trying 
> and
> climbing up and down the tower not really understanding what is 
> going on.
> Here in Russia we have one proverb " Measure 7 times before cutting 
> once"
> 
> > I do agree that hams should endeavor to learn some technology of 
> the
> > hobby but most aren't
> > into bantering professional level therom.   Most hams want a 
> simple
> > answer to their questions.
> 
> Some professional also want simple answer to their questions but 
> usually
> those are not very bright professionals.
> One can also hire some professionals to build a station for him and 
> some
> operators to win contests for him and all that without much efforts 
> to learn
> something. But will that be in the spirit of real ham radio?
> 
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
> 
> > 73,  Les,  W�OJH  (since "52")
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Wes (N7WS) and Linda wrote:
> >
> > >At 12:20 PM 12/19/2002 -0700, E. Jerold Forwood wrote:
> > >The problem with most of these "Programs" is that they are like
> statistics
> > >or Political Poles.(sic)  You can feed them with all kinds of 
> data until
> > >you get the outcome you are looking for and then believe you have 
> come up
> > >with a "great revelation".  Just like the "Gain" some antenna
> manufacturers
> > >claim that they can backup with all sort of charts and 
> "theocratical
> data".
> > >I still say: Move away from your computers,  Build some antennas, 
>  Run
> some
> > >feedline,  Hook up your tuner and your transmitter and get on the 
> air!
> See
> > >if the ham on the other end can hear you.  After all "Ham Radio" 
> is
> > >supposed to be about "ON AIR" Communications.  Or have you all 
> moved to
> "ON
> > >LINE" ? and forgotten how to "CQ" -.-.  --.-?
> > >73's de Jerry, K�EJF
> > >
> > >I joined this group after hearing it was a nice friendly bunch.  
> I'm
> > >certainly not trying to be unfriendly, but I have to disagree 
> with some
> of
> > >this.
> > >
> > >I have built a lot of antennas, including an EME antenna with 
> which I
> > >worked all continents on 2 meters, 200+ grids and 42 states.
> Additionally,
> > >even though I am a very casual operator I have 317 countries 
> worked (all
> > >with HB antennas) and I am nearing 5BDXCC confirmation.  (Need a 
> few on
> > >80M).  So I hope I qualify as an "on the air" ham.
> > >
> > >That said, having spent 33+ years in the rf/microwave aerospace 
> business
> > >where I have done, among other things, a lot of antenna 
> measurements on
> > >both indoor and outdoor ranges, I am also a firm believer in 
> computations
> > >and modeling *before" snipping wire.
> > >
> > >Our charter as hams, besides becoming a pool of experienced 
> operators,
> > >includes enhancing our technical skills.  To me a computer is 
> just a
> tool,
> > >not much different from a soldering iron and a tape measure.  Why 
> on
> Earth
> > >should I not use one?
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >Wes  N7WS
> > >
> > >
> > >
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