[AMRadio] Comment to a comment

Wed Nov 2 06:27:23 EDT 2011

I think that walking around wired to an i something or with a face
glued to an i fone all the time is not exactly a sign of intelligence.

In fact, a recent article in the New York Times reported that ~ 100 of
the Silicon Valley wealthiest high tech parents, the top dogs at
Apple, eBay, Google, Yahoo and HP  and other such places send their
kids to a special expensive private school, the Waldorf School of the
Peninsula, that does not even have a single computer or any other
electronics at all.  One of the parents was quoted as saying it is
ridiculous to expose a kid to a computer while he or she is in primary
school.

Here is the article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/23/technology/at-waldorf-school-in-silicon-valley-technology-can-wait.html?pagewanted=all

The young parents at these hip high tech firms, apparently have
realized something I have known for years--being in continuous contact
with various "high tech" gadgets doesn't make one smarter; it induces
what I consider multi-tasking brain-rot, a sort of mindless manic
hysteria.   Flex Radios don't help hi hi.

73

Rob
K5UJ

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 4:40 AM, David Knepper <collinsradio at comcast.net> wrote:
> Remember this that these kids are smarter in so many ways, technologically,
> than the hams today who don't even own a soldering iron let alone an i-Pad.
> Perhaps, we could learn a "thing or two" by entering their world.
>
> My youngest grandson (7 years old) would never give up his i-Pod for my
> Collins.  For that matter I am cautious whenever he comes into the shack
> unexpectedly and I am listening to a net where  crusty old men are bitching
> or swearing as if they were in "Uncle Joe's saloon."  The last time I broke
> into a QSO to remind an individual to tone it down, I was told to _____ I
> can't repeat it here.  So much for self-policing the bands.
>
> I say we are the one's that need to change or at least, not feel intimidated
> by the world of cyberspace.  The thought has just come to me:  has anyone
> ever tried introducing code to the elderly in our nursing homes?  Excuse me
> now but I am off to make a CW contact that is both relaxing and a stimulant
> for whatever mind I have left!
>
> David Knepper, W3CRA/W3ST
> Collins Radio Association
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Comment to a comment
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> We need to go back to fostering electronics education and
>> building and starting new hams out on HF.
>
> I agree Rob - 'we' need to do this. What are you doing now to
> introduce, invite, or otherwise encourage new hams to join our ranks?
> It really is our job to do, not the FCC's. The vast majority of hams I
> know do nothing in this vein, choosing to instead blame cell phones,
> computer games, the internet and other new technologies for the lack
> of interest from young people. Keep in mind that most kids today know
> radio only as internet radio. They don't have a set by their bed like
> many of us did, or even know what a shortwave radio is. Most of us
> learned about radio through hearing and seeing some form of it in
> action. As my wife said recently when I mentioned that kids don't know
> what radio is these days (she's a K-8 school principal): "They don't
> know what a CD is either". Technology moves fast, and the technology
> that brought the world to us isn't the technology they get their music
> and remote social contact from. Only 'we' will change that.
>
>> No test of any time can "filter out poor character and
>> unethical behavior" and that was never the intent of any FCC testing
>> in the past as far as I know. But an examination of some level of
>> rigor can serve to attract people with a passion and love of radio and
>> a curiosity of the science of radio.
>
> This was the main reason I hated to see the CW requirement leave. I
> had some false sense of security in believing that requiring someone
> to learn a particular part of the hobby that was of no interest to
> them was a way of proving that they could or would apply themselves.
> Clearly this was wrong, as proven by current comments about the
> satellite and other obscure questions on the Extra exam. I happen to
> believe that knowing the code is a handy thing, like knowing another
> language that could save your life, basically. Unfortunately, many
> others disagree with me as does the FCC. Pining for the good old days
> didn't help me any, so I decided to move on with what we have and make
> the best of it.
>
> While the internet is a wonderful tool for moving information and
> discovering things, I think it also fosters a false sense of
> accomplishment for many, who vent their frustrations through email or
> websites, then go on about life feeling they've accomplished
> something. "Preaching to the choir" comes to mind. (o:
>
> ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
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