[AMRadio] SPAM/Bounces

Mon Oct 18 14:27:30 EDT 2010

Thanks Jim, Todd, and others.  We will work through this, however the AMList
has no control over who hacks your email account and sends to all or certain
people in your address book.  Bob has the right idea, although a regretful
thing to have to do...

All I can and will say at this time, is that we will take whatever means we
have to in order to keep this email list intact.  I am 99.9% certain this
problem is not due to ANY member of this list, but some evasive actions may
have to be taken to keep it clean of these spammers that are hacking the
accounts of those who use Yahoo, AOL, Juno, and others since those providers
don't seem to be in any real hurry to secure their members...

Thanks all

Brian / w5ami

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Bob Macklin <macklinbob at msn.com> wrote:

> In the case of Yahoo email the Yahoo address book is on the Yahoo email
> server, not in your computer.
>
> I still receive email through my Yahoo account but I have erased all the
> addresses in my Yahoo address book. I have not had a problem with Spam from
> my account since I did that. But before I did it I was hit 3 times.
>
> Bob Macklin
> K5MYJ
> Seattle, Wa.
> "Real Radios Glow In The Dark"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Wilhite" <w5jo at att.net>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] SPAM/Bounces
>
>
> > Ladies and Gentlemen,
> >
> > Brian is absolutely correct about this.  No major ISP can protect your
> > email address book.  What has happened is someone managed to get past
> > the firewall (s) and mine the addresses in, either, all or some of the
> > accounts held by various ISPs.  The most recent problem has been Yahoo.
> >
> > For some reason G Mail seems to have a better spam filter than Yahoo and
> > AOL and have protected their accounts better.  I suggest anyone who used
> > web based mail to get an account with G Mail or another service of your
> > choice.  By changing your mail account and disabling the one (s) with
> > the problem then change your address in this group.  This is the only
> > way I know to stop (or slow) the problem.
> >
> > This is one reason I don't use web based mail, and if they can do this
> > they can read your mail, ask Sarah Palin and others.  I have seen this
> > type of problem many times in the past 20 years and it isn't going to go
> > away, it is a moving target.  At least my little computer out here in
> > the plains of Oklahoma isn't much of a target for these guys.
> >
> > If we see excessive bounces we will be required to turn your account off
> > despite the fact we do not wish to do so.  Please contact your server
> > owner where your mail account is located and complain VERY LOUDLY.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Jim/W5JO
> > Moderator
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> >> Fact is, YOU won't since you are using Yahoo.  Yahoo and AOL are not
> >> paying
> >> attention.  It's not just this list, but many, if not all those on
> >> qth.comthat are being effected.
> >>
> >> The problem is that those in the group, who are not using Yahoo or
> >> AOL,
> >> their ISP's are beginning to block the spam messages from this group
> >> as
> >> SPAM, and the AMRadio list server will eventually turn their account
> >> off due
> >> to excessive bounces, and those bounces are due to SPAM.
> >>
> >> Jim/jo, please chime in here if you will.
> >>
> >> I am not making this up folks.  I've run this list for many years and
> >> I am
> >> seeing accounts disabled left and right over the last day or so over
> >> this.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Mack Rogers <n4vgb at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've never received any spam that I recognized as coming from a
> >>> legitimate
> >>> regular user of this email reflector?
> >>>
> >>> I've used yahoo mail for years with no problems.
> >>>
> >>> SPAM that seems to originate from a legitimate user may be linked to
> >>> those
> >>> who use facebook also? In the signup process for facebook you are
> >>> allowing
> >>> facebook to access your email lists and download all the info
> >>> contained
> >>> there. Every time someone I know starts a facebook page I receive an
> >>> email
> >>> announcement of their new facebook page that appears to originate
> >>> from them
> >>> personally but is actually generated and sent from the facebook
> >>> website. My
> >>> wife has a facebook page and has suffered the embarrassment of having
> >>> her
> >>> regular email contacts receive spam that appears to originate from
> >>> her.
> >>> Facebook has used the lame excuse twice now that someone has hacked
> >>> her
> >>> account and she has changed her password twice. The excuse is BS, the
> >>> spam
> >>> originates from facebook itself.
> >>>
> >>> N4VGB
> >>> Mack Rogers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Mon, 10/18/10, W5AMI <ars.w5ami at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 12:17 PM
> >>> > Those of you that are using Yahoo,
> >>> > AOL, and some others, need to complain to
> >>> > your provider that hackers are using your email accounts to
> >>> > send SPAM
> >>> > "through" your address, and it is affecting this email list
> >>> > in a bad way.  I
> >>> > have no control of this matter now other than suspending
> >>> > all those who are
> >>> > using those providers.  I know it's not your fault,
> >>> > however this has been
> >>> > going far too long, and those like Yahoo, and AOL don't
> >>> > seem to be in any
> >>> > hurry to block these people from using YOUR account.
> >>> >
> >>> > I can not allow this list to be destroyed after 13 years or
> >>> > more due to this
> >>> > issue.  Complain to them!  If not, unsubscribe
> >>> > and get another email
> >>> > provider like Gmail or something and resubscribe with your
> >>> > new email
> >>> > account.  I'm sorry about this, but it's beyond my
> >>> > control.
> >>> >
> >>> > Brian / w5ami
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Brian Sherrod - A.R.S. W5AMI
> >>> > My website: "Arkansas Airwaves" - http://arkansasairwaves.net
> >>> > Email : ars.w5ami at gmail.com
> >>> >
> >>> > "It is discouraging how many people are shocked by honesty
> >>> > and how few by
> >>> > deceit".
> >
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Brian Sherrod - A.R.S. W5AMI
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Email : ars.w5ami at gmail.com

"It is discouraging how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by
deceit".