[ADXA] J28MD 24911.0 FT8 1231z

Fri Nov 4 00:42:32 EDT 2022

Dennis.  
   BOY do I remember Don Miller, coming back to 2-3 stations that he copied down, sending all calls at one time and a 599 and a TU and you knew you were in the log!  He did not need to hear his call, he knew who was calling him by the frequency they were on, usually up 2-3 KC… Gosh, FUN stuff, decades ago and Don Miller was one of the best CW ops I ever heard. Told him that at Visalia a few years and have pictures on the wall of us two yaking for 15 about the old days.. 
   TU for the memory about Don, Dennis.
San YY

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From: Dennis Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 8:00 PM
To: jayw5jay
Cc: Sandy Hutson; Trent Fleming; w5zn at w5zn.org; ADXA at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [ADXA] J28MD 24911.0 FT8 1231z

The first multi-stream contact I heard was Don Miller on CW.  He would send W5RZ W5JAY 5NN, then pause a second and send TU.  I’ve seen KL9A and N6MJ and our own N5DX work some tremendous rates per hour on CW - probably over 400.  I tried 2BSIQ one time and decided that I was barely up to any kind of SO2R operation at al.

I’ve gotta admit the multi-stream FT8 stuff confuses me, like how to tell whether they are working WSJT-X F/H or some other variation.   George helped me with some of that, though.  We have some real digital modes gurus in this area.

I’ve got a rig on digital modes with a 135 foot ladder line fed dipole and LDG tuner.  I can usually work ‘em with that no matter what band.  The other rig has better antennas and higher power for CW and SSB so I’m set up well to chase DeSoto points.  The only problem is fishing, watching baseball games, doing POTA, etc.  Those things keep my butt out of the DX’ing chair too much!

73,
Dennis (RZ)

On Nov 3, 2022, at 3:47 PM, jayw5jay <jayw5jay at cox.net> wrote:

Hi San, 
These operators are working 8 plus a minute when using multi-stream FT8. I've seen as many as five Streams on each transmission. That is pretty amazing rate considering they're giving some folks an all-time new one that have marginal antennas. Like living in HOAs, Etc.  I guess we can look at their post operation stats. Assuming they are on Club log?

They do indeed have some great CW operators. Worked them one call on 40 last night, then DB Don work them with only three calls. I thought Dennis had them as well, but there was another station with a similar call right on top of him. However shortly after Dennis got them 30 m CW after them quitting on 40 CW. That contact was A- Okay for Dennis, but I didn't hear Dave Norris's contact. I love listening on the sidelines when ADXA members work them quick. Those big guns down in central Arkansas!

All this within a few minutes. They don't stick around for very long on any band. I've been watching their real time log as they move from band to band. I like their instant gratification you work them all you have to do is look on the screen and you're in the log. What's really cool is you can see what bands and mode you have already worked them and look up and see what bands they're currently on.

73 jay/w5jay 

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From: Sandy Hutson <k5yy1 at cox.net> 
Date: 11/3/22 9:27 AM (GMT-06:00) 
To: Trent Fleming <trent.fleming at gmail.com>, w5zn at w5zn.org 
Cc: adxa at mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [ADXA] J28MD 24911.0 FT8 1231z 

Yep.. And I thought FT modes were mainly useful for when CW and SSB were inaudible.  Most DXpedition operators on CW or SSB can work more QSOs per minute than FT8 or quicker FT4 allow.. When I see software modes being used at the expense of CW and SSB and RTTY which are “in” and very audible, that puts a bad feeling in the minds of many of us. 
Sub-audible is OK for sure, and then I am for FT modes when other strong modes can not being used. When signals are in the big + range, 5-6 QSOs per minute by SSB and CW ops is very fast, no waiting for 15 and 30 second rules etc. IIWII and it’s their $ on the ‘other end’ and their time.. But many are left out of QSOs if SSB and CW are no used much, especially when conditions are in and 5-6 Qs a minute can be made.. 
San

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From: Trent Fleming
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:04 AM
To: w5zn at w5zn.org
Cc: adxa at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [ADXA] J28MD 24911.0 FT8 1231z

that's SSB level!!!

On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 8:59 AM <w5zn at w5zn.org> wrote:
WOW!! I don't believe I've ever seen a +31 on FT8!

On 2022-11-03 07:55, BILL KENNAMER wrote:

He was +31 here!

FUV

On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 08:34:45 AM CDT, Scott Branyan <sbranyan at cox.net> wrote:

Thanks, Joel. Also got him!

73,
Scott/W5AAJ

From: adxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net <adxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Lanny Aldrich
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 7:49 AM
To: w5zn at w5zn.org; adxa at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [ADXA] J28MD 24911.0 FT8 1231z

Thanks Joel.  First double-click! 5th band, all FT8; lack 80 & 17M . . . and your #283 160M!
73, Lanny  K1LEC

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From: w5zn at w5zn.org
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 7:33 AM
To: adxa at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [ADXA] J28MD 24911.0 FT8 1231z

For all you FT8 dudes (and dudettes) if you still need J28 on 12 meters they are currently on 24911. Gud sig -04 here at the moment.
ZN

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