[ADXA] Sent to ZN, Norris and ADXA @ 9:56 but did not come through. #2 attempt now.

[EJ]

Really?  I always thought learning morse code was like learning to ride a bike.  You never forget.  My mother learned morse “accidentally” when her brother was a ham (W9FNJ) in the 30’s.  She was able to knock the rust off and teach me when I was 12.  

 

EJ

 

From: adxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:adxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of w5zn at w5zn.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 11:14 AM
To: David Norris <k5uz at icloud.com>
Cc: adxa <adxa at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [ADXA] Sent to ZN, Norris and ADXA @ 9:56 but did not come through. #2 attempt now.

 

Yes, CW is more fun for me as well but what about the many, many folks on CW today that use their computer to decode CW because they can't copy CW....AND, I'm NOT talking about the folks who did not have to pass a Morse exam to obtain a license. I'm talking about the old dogs that can't copy one dit! They're technology dependent also.

ZN

On 2020-07-01 10:08, David Norris via ADXA wrote:

All my FT-8 is human controlled too.  

 

If that's where the DX is I'll jump in.  I do share the concern that this makes us more technologically dependent and is there really a skill set being honed here? That will open the door for debate. CW is still more fun...

 

73 

 

David A. Norris, K5UZ 

Director, Delta Division

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 1, 2020, at 10:29 AM, HamOP <k5yy1 at cox.net <mailto:k5yy1 at cox.net> > wrote:

  Yes it is an "attended" mode of operation and legal; you do have to SEE the printouts and click a button now and then to complete the QSO, but you sure don't actually hear what is being said if in the subaudible ranges. 

  If audible sounds at the + 20dB in USA to USA contacts or lower + dB range around the world, you DO hear the oscillating tones but no deciphering of meaningful conversation unless a software "assist" is involved. So, yes, "attending to" the "situation" in person is required and not denied by many 1000s of hams who still call it the "non human mode"... They all have tongues in cheeks and smiles, like K5UR has stated. 😊

  That's all I am saying, that some non human software stuff is required for the "attended" to operation of FT8. It sure has changed ham radio and especially DXing, just like SSB did to AM in the late 50s to early 60s. I was there. Took a while to convert but QSOs were easier on the narrower SSB passband and with weaker signals being copied. 

   FT8 will still be here when the demise of ham radio might happen unless new, younger hams get in our hobby. We all agreed to that at the Russellville forums. I will be one of those who continues to smile and frown at various times depending on the different situations being discussed.  IIWII

San     Have a good day all ADXA members!! I did work a TI2 on CW this morning.

   

 

 

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

From: Joel Harrison <mailto:w5zn at w5zn.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:15 AM
To: HamOP <mailto:k5yy1 at cox.net> 
Cc: Steve Norris <mailto:w5ki at silverlarkcrafts.com> ; adxa at mailman.qth.net <mailto:adxa at mailman.qth.net> 
Subject: Re: 6m 100 worked club increasing.. Congrats for ur efforts.

 

My FT8 is HUMAN CONTROLLED!!!

Automatic unattended operation is not legal in the USA

 

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