[ADXA] Sent to ZN, Norris and ADXA @ 9:56 but did not come through. #2 attempt now.

[w5zn at w5zn.org]

Yes, CW is more fun for me as well but what about the many, many folks
on CW today that use their computer to decode CW because they can't copy
CW....AND, I'm NOT talking about the folks who did not have to pass a
Morse exam to obtain a license. I'm talking about the old dogs that
can't copy one dit! They're technology dependent also. 

ZN 

On 2020-07-01 10:08, David Norris via ADXA wrote:

> All my FT-8 is human controlled too.  
> 
> If that's where the DX is I'll jump in.  I do share the concern that this makes us more technologically dependent and is there really a skill set being honed here? That will open the door for debate. CW is still more fun... 
> 
> 73 
> 
> David A. Norris, K5UZ 
> Director, Delta Division 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 10:29 AM, HamOP <k5yy1 at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> Yes it is an "attended" mode of operation and legal; you do have to SEE the printouts and click a button now and then to complete the QSO, but you sure don't actually hear what is being said if in the _subaudible ranges_. 
>> 
>> If audible sounds at the + 20dB in USA to USA contacts or lower + dB range around the world, you DO hear the oscillating tones but _no deciphering of meaningful conversation_ unless a software "assist" is involved. So, yes, "attending to" the "situation" _in person _is required and not denied by many 1000s of hams who still call it the "non human mode"... They all have tongues in cheeks and smiles, like K5UR has stated. 😊 
>> 
>> That's all I am saying, that some non human software stuff is required for the "attended" to operation of FT8. It sure has changed ham radio and especially DXing, just like SSB did to AM in the late 50s to early 60s. I was there. Took a while to convert but QSOs were easier on the narrower SSB passband and with weaker signals being copied. 
>> 
>> FT8 will still be here when the demise of ham radio might happen unless new, younger hams get in our hobby. We all agreed to that at the Russellville forums. I will be one of those who continues to smile and frown at various times depending on the different situations being discussed.  IIWII 
>> 
>> San     Have a good day all ADXA members!! I did work a TI2 on CW this morning. 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail [1] for Windows 10 
>> 
>> FROM: Joel Harrison
>> SENT: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:15 AM
>> TO: HamOP
>> CC: Steve Norris; adxa at mailman.qth.net
>> SUBJECT: Re: 6m 100 worked club increasing.. Congrats for ur efforts. 
>> 
>> My FT8 is HUMAN CONTROLLED!!! 
>> 
>> Automatic unattended operation is not legal in the USA 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail [1] for Windows 10 
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