[ADXA] Rebel Group and Bouvet - SORRY for this long reply to entire group..

Mon Oct 14 08:25:02 EDT 2019

I agree with your thoughts completely San.  The Bouvet DXpedition was a
very sad situation for all.  I did manage to work TO8 on 20 and 17 CW.  I
am happy with that. On to the next one :-)
Rory, K5CKS

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 12:59 PM HamOP <k5yy1 at cox.net> wrote:

> TU Steve and Rory for comments. I just feel sorry for the DXer who chases
> and chases and spends money on pre-trip donations and/or for QSL card
> return and then nothing comes back to the ones who might work someone and
> need for an ATNO. The complaints on the Rebel site clearly show lack of
> post trip communications and lack of paper QSLs they paid for. ARRL sorta
> forces the LoTW timely updates of DXpeditions.
>
>
>
> Those guys do have a right to bitch, as it has happened to them. The
> majority of DXped trips know that to get future pre-trip donations from
> Foundations, Clubs and individuals that you have to live up to expectations
> and deliver. One guy in the past who pursued P5 N. Korea got reprimanded by
> 100% of the clubs and foundations because he wanted big funding donations
> up front and no proof that his trip was authorized, despite him saying he
> was sending ham gear there for ‘storage’.. At about that time, then all DX
> trips support $$, *pre or post trip*, started getting tough, wanting
> proof of operation, mainly due to *less money* in the club funds to
> donate on the front end. Even our ADXA looks closely at standings on the
> DXCC need ladder, who the leaders are and their past history of
> authenticity, etc. before donating from our limited funds of support.
>
>
>
> I was just wondering about our ADXA members who DID work the Conway Reef
> and who did donate in some way perhaps, if they got QSL card confirmation
> if asked for. The ARRL is pretty strict on a DXpedition not doing LoTW for
> many, many months, and especially if none at all. The general “OK” rule is
> to confirm via LoTW within 6 months or the ARRL has the right to *discuss*
> not allowing the DXpedition if it appears to have been unethical on *several
> fronts*. Happened decades ago twice and went before the board and DXAC
> when I was Chairman. Tough discussions. FUV might remember the specifics on
> one or both. One even purposely did not work some top DXers that he had a
> beef with..
>
>
>
> So, since I have not contributed or asked for a QSL from Dom’s Rebel Group
> trip to Conway Reef, tho worked them on 6 band modes, I am just standing by
> for now to see what happens and how it might reflect on any 3Y0 trip coming
> up. On the Bouvet situation,  I have nothing to bitch about, especially
> since I have Bouvet on several band/modes from years ago. But, I do need it
> on RTTY and 80-40 meters but no real chance from here with present antenna
> situation. I do and will speak out if it pertains to ADXA members who have
> been jilted in any way… All of our members are ethical and try to be
> understanding of all DXpedition involvements. But for those who need a
> significant # of DXCC countries still, and if they contribute to most of
> them, I want them to get a fair shake. The donation $$ does add up, as us
> old timers went thru years ago when we gave $1-2 per card, equivalent to
> $5-6 now. HI HI
>
>
>
> Now, just wish the TO80SP wud get a signal in here on 21 and 24mc before
> going QRT tomorrow!! *Then in FOUR more days*, get ready for VP6R,
> Pitcairn Island. Should create a good pileup!
>
> 73, now back to Pro football games..
> San K5YY
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> *From: *Steven Rutledge <rutl7340 at bellsouth.net>
> *Sent: *Sunday, October 13, 2019 11:51 AM
> *To: *Rory Bowers <k6cks01 at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *HamOP <k5yy1 at cox.net>; adxa <adxa at mailman.qth.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [ADXA] Rebel Group and Bouvet
>
>
>
> Ouch!  Agree Rory.  Easy for us to sit back and bitch.  You have
> encourage, support financially and hope for the best.
>
>
>
> I’m an Irish Protestant.  What did your Dad say about us?  :)))))))
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Steve, QQ
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Rory Bowers <k6cks01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I do really feel sorry for those guys... I really do believe that they
> made a good attempt to get there and had good intentions of completing the
> DXpedition.  But as Dad would have said "their a bunch of Polocks".
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 9:46 AM Steven Rutledge <rutl7340 at bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
> Trying to forget.....
>
>
>
> Steve, QQ
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2019, at 7:51 PM, HamOP <k5yy1 at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Anyone notice the lack of information on the Rebel Group website since
> late July? Almost 2 ½ months and they never went to the second place he
> (Dom) and his Japanese team member were *supposed* to activate, and they
> have their own updated boat, navigation system, radar,  etc. I am glad I
> did not send for a QSL and have them keep the $$ for other things besides a
> QSL’s postage back to USA.. Has anyone in the ADXA received a QSL from
> Dom yet for 3D2CR, Conway Reef ??? Curious…
>
>
>
> No updates on what’s wrong, where they are and the status of Bouvet which
> they said they would definitely activate this winter. Several disgruntled
> DXers commented on the Rebel web about sending emails to Dom and after
> weeks and weeks of wondering about their QSLs not coming, and there had
> been no answers. One said he was a $$ donor but no more!  The web director
> said Dom would be replying.  Any of this sound familiar?? Yep…
>
>
>
> So looks like the possibility of a Bouvet attempt is not very good, sorry
> for the ADXA members who might need it for an ATNO. That’s part of the
> DXing game…
>
> San   Go Hogs!! 13-0 now, Hogs…
>
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