[ADXA] my cramped space 80/160 dipole.

[HamOP]

EJ.   Thanks for asking…
I bought a dual band 80/160m KW dipole 20 years ago. It comes off the tower at 34 feet  and feeds about 2 feet away, and elements ends are at 12 feet and other end slopes down with end 6 feet off ground. It is omnidirectional AND signal almost straight up and down due to low height of about 1/8th wavelength. No figure of 8  pattern of a normal dipole if it was 60 feet up on 80 and higher on 160. It definitely is below average on 80m and almost unusable on 160m unless I am working TN, TX, MO or OK.. hi hi

Sometimes I use my multiband 23 foot vertical on 80 and it gets thru quicker (lower angle of radiation) sometimes although the receive signal is about the same as the dipole. I do switch back and forth on 80. The ADXA talk in December clearly stated the best on 160m is a VERTICAL overall (none here) and ALL other bands do better with  horizontally polarized beam type antennas, especially if ½ wavelength high. Still, that would be 60 feet for that 80 dipole.

As Joel says, and I usually always do if I need DX on 80 or 160m, I listen at my SR and SS unless they are local and strong  in AR. My vertical only has 3 elevated (6 foot high) radials. Hey, it is what it is. Just wish I lived outside town on 5 acres with two 100 foot towers as I did in 1993-95. The wife was happier in town close to Walmart and her friends and the church we attend. It has been a bugger the past 24 years. I have 211 confirmed on 160 since I started favoring that band in 1974 but will never see 220 in my lifetime. Still, if I hear ‘em, I will call … usually. HI  Hope you get all the B/M you need on the XR0 ..
San

 

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From: EJ
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 2:06 PM
To: 'HamOP'; w5zn at w5zn.org; 'adxa'
Subject: RE: [ADXA] 5X3C on 160 Meters

What’s your antenna situation on 160 San?

EJ

From: adxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:adxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of HamOP
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 8:13 AM
To: w5zn at w5zn.org; adxa <adxa at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [ADXA] 5X3C on 160 Meters

The night you worked them Joel, saw your spot and immediately listened. NOTHING heard here. My only issue is that with our peak, other very good antenna DXers guys still are louder, even at my peak and would beat me out.. Hi hi   Disappointment but I do with what I have, which ain’t much. I listen when I start hearing the closer K4 or K8 stations calling or spotting on DX Summit. Usually about a 45 min window total.  TU.
S


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From: w5zn at w5zn.org
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 8:16 PM
To: adxa
Subject: [ADXA] 5X3C on 160 Meters

For you ADXA folks who have an average 160 meter setup, heck even if it 
is below average, and want a shot at 5X3C I would encourage you to 
listen between 7:15-7:30 PM, or even expand that a bit from 7:00 to 7:45 
PM, at our local sunset which currently 7:16 PM.

Thursday night they had a massive sig for about 15 mins at our sunset 
and were totally gone by 7:35 PM. I worked them easily Thursday night at 
0022z. I did not listen Friday evening as I was on 7P8LB watch and last 
night I was very busy helping Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne tame the wild 
west so don't know if they were on 160 or not. Tonight, however they 
were on 160 and again had a HUUUUGE signal right at and just after our 
SS for about 20 minutes or so and then gone.

Remember, timing is everything so hang at the radio. This is 160 meters 
so there is NO guarantee this will occur every night they are on 160 but 
so far it has occurred on two nights. IMPORTANT - they are listening up 
so do NOT transmit on their frequency. They have been on 1827.3, usually 
listening up 3 or so. Call them UP UP UP!!! Do not call on their 
frequency and become a candidate for the ADXA Goober Award!

They seen to hear very well on 160 so if you don't believe you have 
enough "meat" on 160 but are listening and hear them, give them a call. 
Propagation on 160 is strange and you may be surprised!

73 Joel W5ZN
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