[600MRG] Short Radial Observation - Check this out

Fri Aug 31 14:26:21 EDT 2018

The term "termination" in antenna talk means either a connection to GROUND or and Connection to GROUND through a resistive element.  Like in a beverage the end is TERMINATED in a resistive element to ground.  In Andy's antenna he connected the radials with a circumference conductive line. No termination was made as he indicated no connection to ground........
Back in my hole.
Mel, K6KBE

      From: Neil Klagge <w0yse at msn.com>
 To: "Brian, WA1ZMS" <wa1zms at att.net> 
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 Subject: Re: [600MRG] Short Radial Observation - Check this out

Hmmm... I am thinking that the terminology might be something like this.
Termination means the endpoint to me. 
Terminal is where you connect two things or more together as if it’s a node perhaps.
I think Andy could have used the word terminal instead of termination? Maybe that’s where the confusion lies?
Language is a very complex way to communicate. Too bad we can’t go mind to mind instead of through our voices and ears. 
Just thinking out loud.De w0yse 

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On Aug 31, 2018, at 10:41, Brian, WA1ZMS <wa1zms at att.net> wrote:

I'm also trying to visualize this one.....
Asked another way:Andy, when you orgininally installed the 3 new radials....tell us where you connected the end of each one (ie: the six connection points)?
I presumed three of the ends closest to the house were all tied together and bonded to the coax shield of the feedline. Correct?
If so, then the three far ends were left open just laying on the ground. Correct?

-Brian, WA1ZMSiPhone
On Aug 31, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Gedas <w8bya at mchsi.com> wrote:

I do thank you very much for taking the time to expand on this but I need to apologize up front.....to this ole RF engineer you have made some murky water more muddy.Let's try this......let's say you added 3 new radials, are you saying that all you did extra now was to connect all 3 ends of these radials with a wire and did nothing else? TU for putting up with my lack of understanding of your explanation.
Gedas, W8BYA

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This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.On 8/31/2018 1:16 PM, Andy - KU4XR via 600MRG wrote:

Hi All:

Perimeter wire and Terminator wire... What I mean by the terms...

A Perimeter wire is a single wire connecting to the end of each radial wire, encompassing, 
and forming a closed circuit, ( typically around an antenna system ).

A Terminator wire ( in reference to my specific setup ) .. To terminate suggests;
" to end in a specific place " .. My 3 " short " radials were laying on the ground - connected
to - Nothing.. In my understanding - an " Open Circuit " .. Adding the wire at their ends
made for a " Termination Point " at a specific place.. Each radial is now physically connected,
and referenced to, each other, feeding back to the common point ground rod.

73:

Andy - KU4XR

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On Fri, 8/31/18, Dwight Blevins via 600MRG <600mrg at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

 Hi Andy,
 Okay, so at age 72 I've learned that the best way to stay ignorant is refuse to admit that
 you don't understand something. So here goes. I'm repeating w8bya's question. 
 How is a radial terminated or un-terminated?
 Ike,
 KW7T   
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 On Friday, August 31, 2018, 8:10:10 AM MDT, Gedas <w8bya at mchsi.com> wrote:

 Hi Andy, pardon my ignorance but what is a "termination" wire at the end of a radial?

 Gedas,
 W8BYA

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