[50mhz] Re: [Logic] Re: Your favorite VHF contest logging software?

Mon, 5 Apr 2004 21:09:24 -0400

I second your opinion. I like it and as for the cost, come on guys, there is
a lot of work involved to develop and constantly update these programs. The
QSO partys and some contests are always modifing the rules and Scott is
keeping up with requests for improvements, additions, and changes without a
complaint. Buy it once as was said and the upgrades are free, what more do
you want from the guy. I have talked with him personally and he is one fine
person. He was very polite and helpful to me as I had never used a logging
program before and his advice enabled me to hook up and get mine running.
Super nice guy. My 2 cents. Rick Robinson.  K8DXN
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "AA6DX" <[email protected]>
To: "Bill VanAlstyne" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [50mhz] Re: [Logic] Re: Your favorite VHF contest logging
software?


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> Well, I HEARTILY disagree with those who think N3FJP's programs cost too
> dearly ..  I too, used CT from the git-go, while in KL7 land ..   and NA
...
> paying customer for both ...  The ONLY thing that comes to mind I find
> lacking is the
> "Super Partial Checker", which I found real handy, especially while using
my
> diddly dah stick.   I have the entire CT site on a CD here, but I find the
> N3FJP program(s) more suitable for my needs at this time.  The program
takes
> advantage of today's powerhouse computing capabilities, making super fast
> logging when a high number of Qs have been entered! John, AC by N3FJP  IS
a
> logging program, with different elements, if you will .. afterwards, you
> simply import your contest log into the general station log, then you can
> upload the entire morass to LoTW site and VOILA!  Your logs are updated in
> your computer, and at Logbook of The World......
> and, your contest logs (in Cabrillo format) are easily sent on their way
in
> a matter of minutes after the contest.   If I don't need to go over logs
> with a fine tooth comb, I have my info on the way to the contest sponsor
> within 5 minutes of the contest end.
> As to having to purchase each contest separately, that is a PLUS, if you
> only do one or two contests each year.  If you want them all, you are
> looking at $39, if you download the programs yourself!  That is what I do
> ... and have the latest/greatest version at all times.   UPGRADES ARE
FREE!
> Gosh, getting to sound like a commercial!  Usual disclaimer .. no $$
> connection on my part!  Just enjoy the product and the support provided!
>  Heck, see for yourself ... download and run a free trial!
> http://www.n3fjp.com
>
> From the N3FJP site:
>
> N3FJP Software Purchase Options
> Register an individual program.
> Registrations for my programs are only $6-$19 each.
>
> N3FJP Software Package & CD - $49.00 (shipping/handling included)
> This Purchase Option includes registration of all the amateur software on
a
> CD. It also includes automatic registration of any additional Amateur
Radio
> software programs that are added to the package. This Option is a great
> deal! To purchase the CD and register all of the programs individually
would
> cost $350.00!
>
> N3FJP Software Registration Package without CD - $39.00
> This Purchase Option includes registration of all the amateur software. It
> also includes registration of any additional Amateur Radio software
programs
> that are added to the package. The CD is not included in this option. This
> Option is also a great deal! To register all of the software individually
> would cost $337.00!
>
> N3FJP's Software CD - $13.00 (shipping/handling included)
> This Purchase Option is the CD only - NO registration of programs.
>
> You may also register one or more programs and purchase a CD. Just add the
> price of the program(s) to the base price of the CD ($13.00).
>
> 73, Y'all .. Mark, AA6DX
>
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>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill VanAlstyne" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>; "_Mailing List 50 MHz"
<[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [50mhz] Re: [Logic] Re: Your favorite VHF contest logging
> software?
>
>
> > R Johnson wrote:
> >
> > > I was going to try and find the site for N3FJP software, but if it is
> > > a charge PER contest affair I guess I'm not even interested !!!
> >
> > Well, that's not exactly true. The VHF Contest logger covers five
> different
> > contests:
> >
> > o   ARRL January VHF SS
> > o   ARRL June VHF QSO Party
> > o   ARRL UHF
> > o   ARRL September VHF QSO Party
> > o   CQ WW VHF
> >
> > Just in the interests of accuracy here...   ;-)
> >
> > Bill / W5WVO
> >
> >
> > >
> > > For the ARRL & CQ VHF contests, CT is hard to beat (in either
> > > version) !!!
> > >
> > > It does ALL for VHF/UHF/SHF and Almost all for HF contests !!!
> > >
> > > Support is GREAT even if it is FREE !!!
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Bob, K1VU
> > >
> > >
> > > At 21:13 4/4/2004 , John Geiger wrote:
> > >> I couldn't agree more.  CT for win seems to work very
> > >> nicely.  The problem with N3FJP software is that it is
> > >> not a logging program.  It is logging programs.  You
> > >> have to download and run a different program for each
> > >> contest (plus pay for each one).  CT Win is free and
> > >> supports all major contests with just 1 program.
> > >>
> > >> 73s John NE0P
> > >>
> > >> --- R Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>> Hi Bill:
> > >>> I meant to get back to you earlier but my taxes got
> > >>> in the way.
> > >>>
> > >>> I've been asked this question many times, both by
> > >>> myself and other VHF'ers.
> > >>>
> > >>> My conclusion is that CT is the best choice !!!
> > >>> -CT is available in a Windows version as well as
> > >>> DOS. Both work well.
> > >>> -It's fast and simple to use.
> > >>> -It has a "Super Partial Checker" to check a partial
> > >>> callsign as you enter it.
> > >>> -It has a "Master Database" for VHF callsigns only.
> > >>> A great plus for VHF contests.
> > >>> -It work well on older laptops for Hilltopping, FD,
> > >>> Rover etc !!! (it's not "BloatWare")
> > >>> -It has excellent support. Updates readily available
> > >>> by download from K1EA's site.
> > >>> -It has a mail list at [email protected] . To
> > >>> get your questions answered fast.
> > >>> -It's now FREE !!! I'd still pay for it if it wasn't
> > >>> free !!!
> > >>>
> > >>> I can go on and on about CT. I've used it for all my
> > >>> VHF contests since the early
> > >>> 90's or whenever V5.07 came out.  I was a "Paying
> > >>> Customer" until it became free.
> > >>>
> > >>> WriteLog is nice but expensive and is overkill for
> > >>> me and my equipment.  Unless things
> > >>> have changed there is yearly update fee of $50 or
> > >>> $60. Too steep for me !!!
> > >>>
> > >>> Next we have "General Loggers" like LOGic, Log-EQF,
> > >>> and the like.  These function
> > >>> as "Contest Loggers", but I have never found that
> > >>> they offer the features of CT.
> > >>>
> > >>> I use LOGic as my "General Logger" and import the CT
> > >>> ADIF files into it after the contest.
> > >>> It works great for that purpose !!! I've tried LOGic
> > >>> for some contests and was never really
> > >>> happy with it compared to CT.
> > >>>
> > >>> I've tried Log-EQF in both DOS and Windows versions.
> > >>> While it's not a "Contest Logger",
> > >>> it functions well. It misses some features found in
> > >>> CT.
> > >>>
> > >>> The bottom line is there are "General Loggers" and
> > >>> "Contest Loggers". Both do their
> > >>> specific job well. When you try to combine the
> > >>> functions into one program things don't
> > >>> work quite as well.
> > >>>
> > >>> My vote is for CTWIN and LOGic for the most
> > >>> flexibility. The 2 BEST !!!
> > >>>
> > >>> Look at the "Super Partial Checker" and the VHF
> > >>> "Master Database" features in CT
> > >>> before you make your mind up.
> > >>>
> > >>> See you in June on 6M from FN42ma (2M also Hi Hi).
> > >>>
> > >>> 73
> > >>> Bob, K1VU
> > >>>
> > >>> ex: WA1OFR
> > >>> 6M for 33 years and still having fun.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> At 14:19 4/4/2004 , Bill VanAlstyne wrote:
> > >>>> Mel, Mark, et al.,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks for the many responses to my query from both
> > >>> the LOGic and 50MHz
> > >>>> reflectors. I've checked out all the suggested
> > >>> programs and previewed a few of
> > >>>> them, where possible.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Well, call me whatever, but I just can't see myself
> > >>> using a DOS app. I guess
> > >>>> I've just been a Windows user for too long (twelve
> > >>> years!) My brain has become
> > >>>> GUI-attuned, I guess. <g> So I really looked
> > >>> seriously only at the true Windows
> > >>>> apps. Since I'll be running it on a 1.8 GHz
> > >>> dual-CPU machine with a 10K RPM
> > >>>> Ultra-SCSI HD and 4 GB RAM, I don't exactly have to
> > >>> worry about code efficiency
> > >>>> versus hardware horsepower. :-)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Writelog is obviously an awesome program, as
> > >>> sophisticated in concept and
> > >>>> implementation as LOGic. Way more than what I need,
> > >>> at least for the moment --
> > >>>> but I suspect I'll end up with it at some day soon.
> > >>> I just really love elegant,
> > >>>> heavy-duty software. For this summer's VHF contest,
> > >>> though, I've decided to go
> > >>>> with the N3FJP VHF Contest logger. It's a
> > >>> well-crafted Windows app obviously
> > >>>> created by somebody who understands VHF contesting;
> > >>> it's simple and easy to use,
> > >>>> and very fast; it talks to my radio (for frequency
> > >>> readout); and it costs ten
> > >>>> bucks.  :-)  All definite plus-points.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> (I can see that for really serious contesting,
> > >>> though, Writelog offers an
> > >>>> incredible array of tools you can't find anywhere
> > >>> else.)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> See you June 12-13 when 6M is wide-open (fingers
> > >>> and toes crossed)...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Bill / W5WVO
> > >>>> ABQ, NM / DM65
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Mel wrote:
> > >>>>> I use Writelog, and it's a terrific program.
> > >>> I've heard good things
> > >>>>> about N1MM... The price is right (free) so
> > >>> perhaps it is the place to
> > >>>>> start. CT is still available... But is DOS
> > >>> based... But it's an
> > >>>>> excellent Contest Logger...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>> From: [email protected]
> > >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> > >>> Of Bill VanAlstyne
> > >>>>>> Sent: April 2, 2004 10:16
> > >>>>>> To: _Mailing List LOGic; _Mailing List 50 MHz
> > >>>>>> Subject: [Logic] Your favorite VHF contest
> > >>> logging software?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I'm looking forward to operating the June VHF
> > >>> QSO Party this
> > >>>>>> year as a single-op fixed station, 6M only. I'm
> > >>> currently
> > >>>>>> running LOGic 6 as my general logging program,
> > >>> but many have
> > >>>>>> voiced the opinion in the past that a
> > >>> lighter-weight, more
> > >>>>>> nimble contest logger is the way to go for
> > >>> contests. Since
> > >>>>>> I'm far from being a "big gun" (100W, 5 el @
> > >>> 35') and don't
> > >>>>>> live in a particularly rare grid square
> > >>> (Albuquerque, DM65),
> > >>>>>> my strategy will probably be more "hunt and
> > >>> pounce" than
> > >>>>>> running pile-ups -- though that will probably
> > >>> happen, too, if
> > >>>>>> the band opens up strongly to 6-land as it did
> > >>> during the
> > >>>>>> 2003 contest.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I'd like some opinions!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Bill / W5WVO
> > >>>>>> Albuquerque, NM / DM65
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