[160m] Re: Topband: ADSL 160 meter RFI problems
Garry Shapiro
garry at ni6t.com
Thu Jan 3 20:05:00 EST 2008
Modems and routers are capable of both responding negatively to RF and
generating RFI to our stations. You give a good example of the
former--here is one for the latter.
Many moons ago, I noted the appearance of strong, broad interference on
160--an obnoxious addition to the omnipresent but constantly changing
mix of buzzes, rattles, dimmer radiation, loose grounds, cable leakage
/ad nauseam/ that defines the topband environment for many of us. I
converted a surplus LORAN square loop from the flea market to 1.83 MHz,
created a Rube Goldberg mounting to car roof-mount racks, and cruised
the neighborhood--and found nothing.
Frustrated, I pulled back into my driveway--and the noise was strong.
The loop had a great null, and it unambiguously pointed at---my shack!
The culprit was a Linksys BEFSR14 router--the Blue Box that was very
popular a few years ago, but is unshielded. (This was the hardwire
version, not the wireless version.) I called Linksys--by then part of
Cisco--and was connected to an overseas "support" moron, who insisted
that there had been no RFI issues with the router.
With no other ideas to try, I reported this to Topband, and received a
response from a List member (whose callsign escapes me) instructing me
to "Google 'Linksys+RFI'", which I did. I got /ten pages/ of links
documenting countless complaints of RFI from 160m to 70cm, including
three formal complaints to FCC. The router went into the junk box,
replaced by a Netgear unit in a metal box. I need not comment further
about the value of "support" from Linksys, which is, sadly, the norm
today from many companies.
Garry, NI6T
Tom Rauch wrote:
> I had ADSL installed last month because I was having
> problems receiving and sending mail via my remote mail host.
> BellSouth is actually where the problem was at for email.
> :-)
>
> Anyway despite having a very clean installation (shielded
> buried phone lines) and antennas several hundred feet away
> from the ADSL system and phone lines.... 160 would just kill
> the DSL modem. Even a dipole 300 feet high and 400 feet away
> that had little RF in any of the lines would knock the modem
> off line. I even built a very good 160 notch filter and
> could not cure it.
>
> The original modem was a Netopia 2210-02 modem. It's a tiny
> little silver modem.
>
> ATT sent me a 2701HG-B Gateway as a no charge exchange and
> all the problems vanished. Even beaming straight into the
> building where the modem is or using a dipole right outside
> the building doesn't cause any connection problems. (I still
> have the 160 notch filter I built in line.)
>
> 73 Tom
>
>
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