[1000mp] 1000mp Digest, Vol 112, Issue 8

Wed Mar 26 10:28:54 EDT 2014

Ham Radio Deluxe has a great band scope, I've been using it for years.

Roy
AA6QQ

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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Jeff Worthing <jeff.worthing at gmail.com>wrote:

> I'd be very interested in this Todd, very frustrating that the 1000mp has
> no IF output socket.
>
> 73 Jeff M1BCM
>
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> >    1. Bandscope (Tod Olson)
> >    2. Re: Bandscope (WD8ARZ)
> >    3. Re: Bandscope (Tod Olson)
> >    4. Re: Bandscope (WD8ARZ)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 00:06:09 -0600
> > From: Tod Olson <tod at k0to.us>
> > To: Ft1000MP <1000mp at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: [1000mp] Bandscope
> > Message-ID: <CF56760B.1A9E2%tod at k0to.us>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="ISO-8859-1"
> >
> > I am exploring using one of the TV dongles to pick up the 70.45 Mhz
> signal
> > or the 45 Mhz signal(alt rcvr) and use it with existing SDR software to
> > create a bandscope for the FT1000MP. Because the TV unit has only 8 bits,
> > the range will only be about 50 dB. [ that is the same as the ICOM 756
> Pro
> > ].
> >
> > Early experimenting indicates that the bandscope software and display can
> > run in parallel with other programs on a ?modern? PC computer. Something
> > capable of running Windows 7. The bandscope could have, but does not
> > require, a separate monitor.
> >
> > If there is any interest on the part of others for such a unit I would
> like
> > to know about it. The unit would be powered by USB, not require a sound
> > card, would have bidirectional control of frequency <tune the radio and
> the
> > center frequency tracks or click on a displayed signal and the radio
> > frequency is changed to the ?clicked? signal frequency.>
> >
> > The dongles seem to be priced around $25. The software is currently
> > freeware.
> >
> > Tod, K0TO
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:17:16 -0400
> > From: WD8ARZ <wd8arz at comcast.net>
> > To: All about Yaesu 1000mp <1000mp at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [1000mp] Bandscope
> > Message-ID: <533165BC.3080008 at comcast.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> >
> > Sounds like you have a very worth while project idea there Tod. Am very
> > interested for sure.
> >
> > My first band-scope on my FT-1000MP was using the CRT type display of
> > the Heathkit SM-220 Station Monitor with the BS-8 band scope module.
> > Used a low pico value capacitor to tap off the receiver I.F. and
> > connected it to the rca phono jack on the back that was for memory
> > battery back up power.
> >
> > Then I switched to your idea about ten years ago, but using a SDR-IQ
> > receiver http://www.rfspace.com/RFSPACE/SDR-IQ.html and the SpectraVue
> > software http://www.rfspace.com/RFSPACE/SpectraVue.html
> >
> > The SDR-IQ and SpectraVue work hand in hand so that when you tune the
> > FT-1000MP the SDR-IQ tuned with it, and visa versa. No tap into the
> > receiver I.F. was needed. The ham antenna was used for both the MP and
> > the IQ.
> >
> > Caution: One must use some sort of front end protection method for the
> > SDR to avoid transmitting into that receiver and damaging it. There are
> > a variety of options one can do to achieve that purpose.
> >
> > 73 from Bill - WD8ARZ
> >
> > On 3/25/2014 2:06 AM, Tod Olson wrote:
> > > I am exploring using one of the TV dongles to pick up the 70.45 Mhz
> > signal
> > > or the 45 Mhz signal(alt rcvr) and use it with existing SDR software to
> > > create a bandscope for the FT1000MP. Because the TV unit has only 8
> bits,
> > > the range will only be about 50 dB. [ that is the same as the ICOM 756
> > Pro
> > > ].
> > >
> > > Early experimenting indicates that the bandscope software and display
> can
> > > run in parallel with other programs on a ?modern? PC computer.
> Something
> > > capable of running Windows 7. The bandscope could have, but does not
> > > require, a separate monitor.
> > >
> > > If there is any interest on the part of others for such a unit I would
> > like
> > > to know about it. The unit would be powered by USB, not require a sound
> > > card, would have bidirectional control of frequency <tune the radio and
> > the
> > > center frequency tracks or click on a displayed signal and the radio
> > > frequency is changed to the ?clicked? signal frequency.>
> > >
> > > The dongles seem to be priced around $25. The software is currently
> > > freeware.
> > >
> > > Tod, K0TO
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 08:37:12 -0600
> > From: Tod Olson <tod at k0to.us>
> > To: Ft1000MP <1000mp at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [1000mp] Bandscope
> > Message-ID: <CF56EFC4.1C83F%tod at k0to.us>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Thanks for the advice Bill.
> >
> > The first Law of Life is:
> >
> > "Trauma Teaches; but it doesn?t have to be your trauma."
> >
> > I hope I can avoid the front end problem you mention.
> > I did plan to use a very small cap to tap into the IF chain rather than
> > the RF antenna input.
> >
> > Are you still using the bandscope setup you describe?
> >
> > Tod
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/25/14, 5:17 AM, "WD8ARZ" <wd8arz at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Sounds like you have a very worth while project idea there Tod. Am very
> > >interested for sure.
> > >
> > >My first band-scope on my FT-1000MP was using the CRT type display of
> > >the Heathkit SM-220 Station Monitor with the BS-8 band scope module.
> > >Used a low pico value capacitor to tap off the receiver I.F. and
> > >connected it to the rca phono jack on the back that was for memory
> > >battery back up power.
> > >
> > >Then I switched to your idea about ten years ago, but using a SDR-IQ
> > >receiver http://www.rfspace.com/RFSPACE/SDR-IQ.html and the SpectraVue
> > >software http://www.rfspace.com/RFSPACE/SpectraVue.html
> > >
> > >The SDR-IQ and SpectraVue work hand in hand so that when you tune the
> > >FT-1000MP the SDR-IQ tuned with it, and visa versa. No tap into the
> > >receiver I.F. was needed. The ham antenna was used for both the MP and
> > >the IQ.
> > >
> > >Caution: One must use some sort of front end protection method for the
> > >SDR to avoid transmitting into that receiver and damaging it. There are
> > >a variety of options one can do to achieve that purpose.
> > >
> > >73 from Bill - WD8ARZ
> > >
> > >On 3/25/2014 2:06 AM, Tod Olson wrote:
> > >> I am exploring using one of the TV dongles to pick up the 70.45 Mhz
> > >>signal
> > >> or the 45 Mhz signal(alt rcvr) and use it with existing SDR software
> to
> > >> create a bandscope for the FT1000MP. Because the TV unit has only 8
> > >>bits,
> > >> the range will only be about 50 dB. [ that is the same as the ICOM 756
> > >>Pro
> > >> ].
> > >>
> > >> Early experimenting indicates that the bandscope software and display
> > >>can
> > >> run in parallel with other programs on a ?modern? PC computer.
> Something
> > >> capable of running Windows 7. The bandscope could have, but does not
> > >> require, a separate monitor.
> > >>
> > >> If there is any interest on the part of others for such a unit I would
> > >>like
> > >> to know about it. The unit would be powered by USB, not require a
> sound
> > >> card, would have bidirectional control of frequency <tune the radio
> and
> > >>the
> > >> center frequency tracks or click on a displayed signal and the radio
> > >> frequency is changed to the ?clicked? signal frequency.>
> > >>
> > >> The dongles seem to be priced around $25. The software is currently
> > >> freeware.
> > >>
> > >> Tod, K0TO
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 11:39:25 -0400
> > From: WD8ARZ <wd8arz at comcast.net>
> > To: All about Yaesu 1000mp <1000mp at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [1000mp] Bandscope
> > Message-ID: <5331A32D.4040808 at comcast.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Am not actually doing that at this time, but it is a simple matter of
> > plugging and using it. I tend to use the SM-220 station scope on the
> > Icom IC-720, some times on the FT-1000MP, but I prefer to use the SDR-IQ
> > on the FT-1000MP. Can listen to two stations on the MP, and two more on
> > the SDR-IQ. Makes it easy to find friends and to listen to dual
> > frequency communications where there is an offset between transmit and
> > receive ... such as our 10M FM and ship to shore communications.
> >
> > Most of my time on HF and the ham bands is listening. So I frequently
> > use the SDR-IQ on a laptop for my listening needs. Sometimes record a
> > couple hundred kilohertz of band space to the hard drive when I am
> > looking for certain activity I want to step through the recorded file
> > spectrum later. Can find missed signals and allows for changing modes,
> > band width, and other factors on the recorded signal as if it was live
> > and in real time ... find that very useful on figuring out what it takes
> > to decode certain digital modes. Even for DRM stations.
> >
> > The SDR-IQ is not cheap, so your project is much needed. Dont let me
> > change your mind, that wasnt my effort. Was just wanting to give you a
> > reference that might be useful.
> >
> > One pet peeve I have: I Dont Like SDR units that Must Use A Sound Card
> > To Process The I and Q signals. That loads up the resources of the
> > computer, is very dependent on sound card spec and performance. The
> > sound card performance is also affect by a lot of activity on a computer.
> >
> > All those concerns go away when the true processing of those I and Q
> > signals are done out side the computer, and only the actual audio our
> > ears need to hear goes to the sound card of the computer. Remember, my
> > pet peeve ... and one that most others dont know about or will
> > understand. They end up just saying such and such a SDR module and
> > software wont work on my computer .... while others say it works just
> > fine here, and yet they dont realize what the issues are that they
> > really do have ....
> >
> > 73 from Bill - WD8ARZ
> >
> > On 3/25/2014 10:37 AM, Tod Olson wrote:
> > > Thanks for the advice Bill.
> > >
> > > The first Law of Life is:
> > >
> > > "Trauma Teaches; but it doesn?t have to be your trauma."
> > >
> > > I hope I can avoid the front end problem you mention.
> > > I did plan to use a very small cap to tap into the IF chain rather than
> > > the RF antenna input.
> > >
> > > Are you still using the bandscope setup you describe?
> > >
> > > Tod
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/25/14, 5:17 AM, "WD8ARZ" <wd8arz at comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sounds like you have a very worth while project idea there Tod. Am
> very
> > >> interested for sure.
> >
> >
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