[1000mp] re: Question about average output PWR on a FT1000mp mark Vfield

[Scott Manthe]

Here is what I suggest you do.

I would use the supplied hand mic  until you get the HC5. The rig is 
looking for a specific input and I doubt a hi-fi element has it.

Listen to yourself in the monitor. Adjust the audio the audio so that it 
sounds good. Leave it alone until you have to readjust it for the HC5.

The carrier offset it used to fine tune audio response. Frankly, many 
hams are not up to messing around with feature and normally screw 
something up. I'd suggest that you reset the carrier offset to the 
factory default and use the TX DSP to tailor the audio.

READ THE MANUAL!!!!! If this doesn't supply you with enough information, 
use Google. There is a LOT of information out there. Don't just rely on 
this group at this moment- search the archives. Many of the topics, 
especially power output and PEP vs. AVG output, have been discussed 
many, many, many times before, in this forum and elsewhere.

Quit comparing the Field to the TS-850. These are very different rigs. 
If your TS-850 showed 100 watts SSB output on that Daiwa meter, it's 
been modified to put out more than 100 watts. This was a very popular mod.

Don't worry so much. If your Field is relatively new, it's probably 
fine. If you have doubts, make sure everything works.
Bad SSB output alone is almost never the symptom of a problem. I n fact, 
this is usually a sign of a crappy meter or someone who doesn't 
understand how to use a wattmeter. When my old Field lost a driver and 
final output transistor, it still put out 100 watts, it's a push-pull 
circuit, afterall. The main sign that I had a problem was my audio was 
distorted and I just never could get it to sound good. But the output, 
on my true peak-reading Yaesu YS-60, was 100 watts or more on every 
band. If you Field puts out 100 watts CW and the audio isn't distorted 
on every setting, then your rig is probably fine.

73,
Scott, N9AA

PA5CA Frans wrote:
> Dear Scott,
> tnx for the reply.... did some more testing and must say I'm not satisfied
> by my own results.
> I'm using a Daiwa CN-101 SWR/PWR meter... and have the switch set to PEP.
> I know the meter can not be trusted but it gives you an idea, still have the
> ts850 picture in mind Hi.
> Perhaps I'm suffering from some RFI ..feed back so will do the same using a
> dummyload.
> One thing I also noticed... I can barley see a difference playing with the
> carrier offset not using the PROC. so I have a huge difference in audio
> between no PROC and using the PROC.
> The dynamic element I'm using is a high quality one but wide range
> 20.....12.000Hz. (will get an HC-5)
> What I will do next, take the radio to a friend of my he has several
> FT1000MP's and see if my radio causes the problem or its me who have it
> between the ears.. Hi keep you posted.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Frans... (pa5ca)
>
>   
>> The ALC reading, with the mic gain and processing controls fully
>> clockwise and using a whistle, will move four dots beyond the end of the
>> ALC scale, so I don't think yours is too far off.
>>     
>
>   
>> The audio will be plenty distorted with readings just beyond the end of
>> the scale, depending on how the the "proc" and "mic" are set. Your
>> TS-850 was a different radio, that was metered differently. Always
>> adjust your audio by listening to the monitor or listening to yourself
>> in a different receiver.
>>     
>
>   
>> What kind of wattmeter are you using? Perhaps you are not using a PEP
>> reading meter, or you are not using one with fast enough PEP?
>>     
>
>   
>> 73,
>> Scott, N9AA
>>     
>
> PA5CA Frans wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>> Have a question about the average out-put power on a FT1000MP mark V
>>     
> Field.
>   
>> Been curious ..in comparison with my previous radio a TS850sat I see some
>> differences in average power.
>> I have been fiddling with three types of microphones.
>> Electret.. Shows without PROC 35.50W with the PROC 45.60W.
>> Handheld (original mic.) without PROC. 25.40W With PROC 35..50W
>> Dynamic element (boom mic.) more or less the same as the handheld.
>>
>> If  I whistle the output shows approx 100W in all cases.
>> Now something else I noticed. is it normal that the mic gain shows only a
>> response up to the 12 hour position (without PROC.), looking at the alc I
>> can barely get it over the mark, max two dots.
>> I would expect some more response on the mic gain. (it looks is there is a
>> limiter involved?)
>> With the PROC. on I have almost no response on the mic gain and there is
>> only a response up to 12 h .with the PROC knob.
>>
>> Perhaps I'm hunting ghosts but I would expect that I could over modulate
>>     
> the
>   
>> radio..by wrongly adjusting the mic gain.
>>
>> On the TS850 I could adjust the mic gain in such way that the ALC bar went
>> to the max, causing distortion, but I could manipulate that reading by
>> subdue my voice.
>>
>> I would expect the mic gain on the FT1000mp give me the possibility to
>>     
> speak
>   
>> with a low volume and still getting a reasonable average output .
>>
>> 73 Frans
>>     
>
>
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