[1000mp] FT1000MP Key Clicks on first element DO Matter

[Mike Gilmer, N2MG]

AA4NU wrote:
> The W8JI mod (or INRAD) ... may NOT prove to be THE
> solution, so what's the answer?

No it may not be THE solution. Do we sit on our hands until the golden
bullet is handed to us - one with guarantee?  Are these mods so unworthy
that we shouldn't bother to try them IF we feel we have clicks (by whatever
definition)?

> ... also note that OTHER
> rigs, as owners examine their signals, may also need work.

Um, yeah, but this is the MP reflector.  I care about my MP.  If I want to
learn what to do with my 940, I go to the Kenwood reflector.  If they don't
care, does that let us off the hook?

> You seem stuck on the 'all MP rigs have the problem' and
> that simply doing the INRAD or W8JI mod solves it.

That's NOT what I read. Quite contrary, you seem to be "stuck" with the
notion that since some MPs do NOT have clicks, and that some TenTecs DO,
that no one should take the time to open their MP up.

> Sorry ...
> what's being shared does NOT support that by looking at
> the actual numbers being posted on here.
>
> No one is against having clean CW signals ... but as
> Tod noted ... there seems to be a wide range of just
> what is considered to be 'clean'.
>

True...

> If a post were to say "I checked my rig, and it's +/- 800 Hz ...
> you'd claim that's too wide/etc. Yet the rigs modified with the
> W8JI mod are showing that as an AFTER reworking measurement
> ... now what does that owner do?

1) could be a poor radio to start with (with, say 3kHz wide clicks) - should
have been measured first
2) could be a poor mod/choice of values - check this
3) could be poor measurement techniques - check them
4) all of the above

> He/she will still be haunted
> by the 'click patrol', yet in good faith they did try something ...
>

If you still have clicks, shouldn't I have the right to tell you, regardless
of the work you have performed, the radio you use, or the phase of the moon?

I haven't heard of the "click patrol"...  perhaps that's some humor, however
it sounds like an derogatory statement aimed at those who would complain
about hearing clicks.

> Now you are suggesting anyone who does not do any mods
> (regardless IF their rig shows clicks) is a bad op ... wonderful,
> that will certainly encourage others to invest time/money on
> mods that may or may NOT resolve the issue(s).

I didn't get that from K6SE's post.

> The FCC regs don't support any stated spec (and yes, I wish
> they did, then we have a standard, and not mere ham
> opinions)

No, the FCC only cares that the crud we produce stays in the ham bands.  If
we are "wide" (splatter/clicks) and operate far from the band edges, we are
pretty safe from the FCC.  PLEASE do not rely on them for the ultimate
adjudication of this topic.  It is up to us.  This means that we need to
detect and repair the bad signals ourselves - with our own limited
abilities.

I've learned from these posts:
a) what a click sounds like
b) what a click looks like on a scope
c) on a spectrum analyzer
d) that lots of radios may have them, and therefore
e) my radio may have them

I think that's enough to get me to take a look.

73 Mike N2MG