[Yaesu] Filter Improvements for FT-1000D
Joe Subich, K4IK
k4ik at arrl.net
Mon May 9 16:27:55 EDT 2005
Ed,
> > > > 2800 Hz Inrad instead of the standard 2400 Hz Yaesu
> > > > 2100 Hz Inrad as optional SSB
> > >
> > > I take it you prefer leaning a bit more towards "high
> > > fidelity" audio, vs. maximizing selectivity.
> >
> > Yes, Hans likes the higher fidelity audio on SSB <G>. Based
> > on their part number, each of the Yaesu filters (8.215 MHz and
> > 455 KHz) are actually 2600 Hz wide at the -6 dB points. When
> > cascaded, they yield 2400 Hz overall at the -6 dB points.
> >
> That all makes sense, and I don't see much wrong with it if they
> are good filters. But specifying BW at the 6dB points is kind of
> nonstandard, and I can see why some might want a little more BW.
It is standard to specify bandwidth at the - 6 dB points. When
any two filers of similar bandwidth are cascaded, the effective
bandwidth is somewhat less than a single filter alone.
I can also see why some might want a wider bandwidth but I've
never felt the need. The INRAD "2800 Hz" filter pair have
individual -6 dB bandwidths of 2888 and 2912 Hz respectively.
Since the 3rd IF filter is slightly wider than the 2nd IF,
the cascaded bandwidth will be very close to 2800 Hz at -6 dB
and around 3500 - 3700 Hz at -60 dB vs. around 2400 Hz at
-6 dB and 3400 - 3600 Hz at -60 dB for the stock filters.
> I rarely use CW, and would never use CW in a contest; so the
> performance of the standard 1000D filter seems fine to me.
> The only reason why I might want to change it would be if
> I wanted a substantially wider BW, per Hans' idea.
If you have an FT-1000 (non-D) and have no need for 250 Hz, then
putting a pair of 1000 Hz filters in the 250 Hz slots might be
intriguing.
> > BTW, the INRAD web site indicates the FT-1000D roofing filter
> > is available (delivery at Dayton). Based on the results in my
> > Mark V, I would make a roofing filter the first filter addition
> > to an FT-1000/FT-1000D.
> >
> Now this sounds interesting. But would this be a hack-type
> modification, or does the 1000D have an available "slot" for
> a roofing filter?
It's not particularly a "hack." The roofing filter and post
amplifier is designed to mount in an empty space on the chassis.
Two wires are run to an adjacent circuit board for 5 volts and
ground. One coax is unplugged from the circuit board and moved
to the roofing filter and a coax jumper is connected between
the roofing filter board and IF board.
> > 2) INRAD 400 Hz CW filter for the sub receiver
>
> If one replaced the Main Rx 500 Hz filter with one of these,
> could the standard filter from the Main be trickled down to
> this spot in the Sub?
No, the center frequencies are different (455.0 KHz for the
main vs. 455.7 KHz for the sub-receiver).
> Also, if one wanted to minimize "unauthorized" mod's, couldn't
> one just add another standard 500 Hz filter to the (presumably
> open) "slot" in the Sub?
Not a "standard" main receiver filter - the center frequencies
and physical shape are different. However, INRAD has a 500 Hz
filter that is a drop in replacement for the Yaesu XF-455MC 600
Hz filter.
> > 3) replace the Murata ceramic filter in the sub-receiver
> > with an INRAD 702
>
> That would be nice. Would another of the original Yaesu
> XTAL filters (same as the Main) be another option?
Yes, if one can find the Yaesu 2.6 KHz (XF-455K-262-01) filters.
Another option might be a 10 pole Collins 2.4 KHz filter from
INRAD (717).
> > 4) add the optional 250 Hz 3rd IF filter if necessary.
>
> Would the benefit of this simply be that selecting a 250 BW
> would also give that BW in the Sub, instead of the Sub
> just staying at 400/500 Hz?
No, the 250 Hz bandwidth is available only in the main receiver
unless one chooses to 'wire in' a 250 Hz filter as the only
CW filter in the sub-receiver (the sub-receiver supports only
one CW filter).
73,
... Joe, K4IK
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