[Yaesu] Quick Question

Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:05:13 -0600

Hi Niel & Gang,

I have hesitated to comment concerning the learning of CW but -
To develop the correct timing and spacing you need to start
out with a straight key, yes, a straight key because you must
program your sub-conscious  with the correct timing and
spacing....You do yourself a dis-service if you begin with a
semi-automatic telegraph key (Bug) or worse yet, an
electronic keyer....Your sub-conscious will not grove in on
the proper timing and spacing and you will join the crown that
are putting out badly spaced CW because they have not
"groved in" with the staight key....You have probably heard
the expression, "by force of habit"....I have been on the way'
to work and wondered if I had shaved that morning and
reached up to feel my chin! No kidding! When your
conscious mind is taken up with maybe problems and/or
other things, you go thru the routines without paying
conscious attention to what is happening. What is guiding
your movements? The sub-scious of course....
For what it is worth!!!!!

Ken....N5CM....NNN0FKQ....

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Eimer" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Quick Question

> The test must be "graded" in text.  Best bet for learning is to get to
where
> you "hear" the letters.  It's much easier build speed that way.  There's a
> limit to how fast you can "count the dots" - usually around 7-8 WPM.  But
> it's perfectly allowable to skip a letter that you miss when you're
copying,
> then fill it in from the context.  For example, if you have trouble with
> "P", and you copy "ANT HERE IS DI OLE", it's easy to figure that the
missing
> letter is P, just "edit" your copy before you turn it in for grading.
> Better to skip the letter, and then get the word, than to pause to wrack
> your brain for what didadadi translates to, and in the process miss
dadadah
> didadidit in the process.  (Easier to fill in DI_OLE than DIP___).  If you
> absolutely have to, you could write the . _ _ ., but some VE's will
question
> your skill level if you did the WHOLE test that way.
>
> Then again, last month I administered a test where the guy didn't even
write
> down as the code was sent.  All he wrote was the call signs at the
beginning
> and end, and about one word in five.  Guy was an ex-Navy radioman, just
> getting his ham license, but had been copying code for years at >20WPM.
For
> him, the 5WPM test was so slow he was copying whole sentences in his head.
> Since he didn't copy "word for word", let alone letter by letter, he
> couldn't get 25 characters in a row, but he got 10 of 10 on the questions,
> because he got the gist of the message in all cases (by getting all the
> "important" words).
>
> Jay
> AD5PE
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brian Carling" <[email protected]>
> To: "Glen Zook" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "Neil
Kollipara,
> KC8YFF" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
> <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Quick Question
>
>
> > But Neil - you CAN write bown BOTH if you wish, like you did in your
> example.
> > You just have to be able to translate those dits and dahs
> > that you write down, into English letters!
> >
> > Good luck on your test!
> >
> > On 21 Nov 2003 at 13:23, Glen Zook wrote:
> >
> > > Nope!
> > >
> > > You have to write down the actual letter.
> > >
> > > Glen, K9STH
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "Neil Kollipara, KC8YFF" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > if it's legal to write down the dits and dahs (such as
> > > -. for N) instead of the letter because code has been
> > > keeping me back from upgrading,
> >
> >
> >
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