[Yaesu] Quick Question

Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:30:20 -0600

I am The Computer Doctor, self-employed, worked hard to get where I am, and
I feel CW is something I will never use for many reasons.  The main reason
is I like to talk, not beep, second is hearing loss problems that kept me
from being a General for years now.  I even passed the General Written a few
times, but the CSCE expired before passing the CW test.  Sure, there is ways
around the hearing problems, but if I have to put that much more time into
it I would just rather set aside this hobby until the FCC gets with the
program and eliminates the CW test.  Its not that I don't enjoy being a
Tech, I nearly have my WAS on 6, which was no small feat being that I barely
get time to turn on the radio unless I'm mobile on the way to a in-home
service call, and then I only have 2m in the mobile and limited users to
chat with out here in the less-ham populated area.  I work satellites, and
would like to add AO-40 now that UO-14 is out of the picture, just haven't
had the time to put the setup together to work it, and with winter here I
don't think I will have enough time for antenna work or messing around at
the work bench any time soon, this is my busy time of the year, unlike other
professions, people seem to spend more time indoors with their computers in
the winter, and that keeps me busy.

It has taken me many many hours to get where I am, and it takes many hours
per week to not only do my job but to stay up to date with all the changes
in technology.  On average, I only get a day per week to enjoy other
activities, and most of that time is spent with my son and wife, which makes
CW the most ridiculous thing to spend time on.  I have a lot more important
things to accomplish on a daily basis, and I never said gimme gimme, so give
up on that crap please.  You pro-code types think that no one is equal, well
I say oh well, the old timers are dying fast.  I already lost two local hams
that I used to enjoy chatting with, and they didn't seem to mind the
no-codes.  It just gets my feathers ruffled,  since I am much more mature
than others that have emailed me directly off-list I will not repeat or post
the bad ones, to the ones that emailed me off list to agree with CW's demise
I say Thank You.

Enough of this CW dribble, this is the Yaesu reflector, not the bitch and
moan about CW reflector.

Scott, KB0NLY

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darryl J. Kelly" <[email protected]>
To: "The Computer Doctor" <[email protected]>; "Yaesu"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Quick Question

Scott,
The guys certainly have left you off easy. Learning the code doesn't require
total and utter commitment, but like anything of real value, it does require
some level of commitment. I notice you call yourself The Computer Doctor.
Bet
you didn't learn what you know in a weekend, if you are any good at that at
all, it has taken many hours, many weeks, many months and more even to stay
up to speed. I know a little of this from experience and find that computer
work is tremendously time consuming. Also how can you say that you probably
will never use the code? That's like saying I don't like spinich, but I have
never eaten it. Your post seemed to have a juvenile and unrealistic tone
that
I just couldn't let pass. I apolgize in advance for any offense. (Nine
months
from Tech Plus to Extra (20wpm) but I'm a little slow, a visual learner.)
Darryl, KK5IB

>Wow, if your saying that one has to totally change his lifestyle just to
>learn it then why bother.  This is a hobby, and I just see being totally
and

>utterly committed to learning CW just to upgrade my license, especially
when

>chances are that I will never use it again after the test.  What a waste of

>life's precious time.
>
>Oh well....
>
>Scott, KB0NLY
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Harry Hodges" <[email protected]>
>To: "Neil Kollipara, KC8YFF" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;

><[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
>Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 4:34 PM
>Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Quick Question
>
>
>> Hi Neil,
>>
>> I am a VE Site Manager, a 20 wpm Extra Class and the world's second worst

>CW
>> operator. I became a Ham in my early 40s when CRS was firmly taking hold

>of
>> my neurons. I figure that if I could make it anyone could; however, it
>takes
>> COMMITMENT! If you want to do anything bad enough you'll find a way. If
>you
>> are blind and want to climb tall mountains you can do it and if you have
a
>> physical impairment and want to sky dive you can do it. You just have to

>> COMMIT yourself to it, whatever it is.
>>
>> In the case of Morse Code or CW, you need to find a tutorial that matches

>> your learning style. Some people are tactile, or aural, or visual, or a
>> combination of all these. Once you have found the appropriate program,
you

>> MUST COMMIT about an hour a day, EVERY DAY, to it. 15-20 minutes in the
>> morning, 15-20 minutes in the evening, and another 15-20 minutes at noon

>> time while you go for a walk or sit under a tree meditating. And just
>don't
>> practice listening, SEND with a straight key, semi-automatic, or iambic,

>> whatever but practice converting the written word into sound. As you
>drive,
>> or pedal your bike around, convert the street signs and billboard ads
into

>> code in your head. LIVE, EAT, and yeah, even dream code. At your age you

>> should ace the test in about 4-6 weeks.
>>
>> Now, what does the test consist of? Well first of all, it will be a
>message
>> which will contain all 26 letters, numbers 0-9, punctuation consisting of

>> the comma, period, question mark, and slant bar, and the prosigns BT, AR,

>> and SK. Now a five minute code test at five wpm will about two lines of
>text
>> and will look something like this:
>>
>> K1XYZ/4 DE WD3JUW/2 BT RRR JOHN. TNX FOR REPORT. UR RST 579 ? 579 IN
>> BUFFALO, NY 60 MILES FROM CANADA. NAME IS BARRY AND I RUN 80 WATTS. SO
HOW

>> COPY? AR K1XYZ/4 DE WD3JUW/2 SK
>>
>> Don't know if I got all 26 letters but you get the idea. You have two
>> chances to pass. One if you have 25 or more characters in a row without
>> mistake. Letters count one each, numbers, punctuation, and prosigns count

>as
>> two characters each. So from the first K to the first R you have 25 and
>all
>> the examiners have to do is find 25 in a row somewhere in the text you've

>> copied. The second chance is to answer 10 questions, e.g. what is the
>> callsign, how much power, etc? If you answer 7 of 10 correctly, you pass.

>> Man, this is not rocket science.Over the sixteen years I have been a VE
>> we've had folks who range from having all their faculties to being deaf,

>> blind, and bedridden who have passed 5 wpm and beyond. How did they do
it?

>> COMMITMENT!
>>
>> Try what I have recommended and you'll see that it works.
>>
>> 73, Harry
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Neil Kollipara, KC8YFF" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
>> <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 20:01
>> Subject: [Yaesu] Quick Question
>>
>>
>> > Hello everyone on the email reflector.
>> >
>> > My name is Neil and I am a 13 year old ham in Michigan. I am going to
go

>> to take the General class test tomorrow with the morse code. I was
>wondering
>> if any of you VEs or VECs could tell me if it's legal to write down the
>dits
>> and dahs (such as -. for N) instead of the letter because code has been
>> keeping me back from upgrading, and I came up with this idea in my
English

>> class. Basically this is what I mean
>> >
>> > -..   .          -.   .   ..   .-..
>> > D   E         N   E  I     L
>> >
>> > I appreciate all your guys help. 73!
>> >
>> > --Neil KC8YFF
>> >
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