[VHF] Re: [Wswss] The 75mtr. VHF/UHF Weak Signal Net: - Move It To VHF!

[H. David Towle]

Bill,

Your comments are good and the possibilities you mention may be feasible.  I
would like to share my thoughts on the subject.

The majority of the VHF/UHF operators I know or meet on the air have HF
capabilities. Most  work 75/80M with dipoles or verticals.  I have no idea
how many are using IRLP/Echolink, or have invested in D-Star equipment.

My investment in VHF/UHF weak signal and HF equipment has been made to have
fun with the hobby, and utilize the equipment to it's fullest.  I see no
reason to move a long standing HF net that promotes VHF/UHF weak signal work
to other means.  Propagation, good or bad, is something that individuals
working HF understand and live with.  It is always nice to have as many
checkins to a net as possible, but for some to miss the checkin from time to
time due to propagation it is not reason to move to another mode.  

I have only been working weak signal on VHF/UHF for about 15 years so I am
sure others may have comments of their own.


73,
David, W6VNQ




-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu [mailto:owner-vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu] On
Behalf Of William M. Pasternak
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 10:55 PM
To: adkins92rod at earthlink.net; Lance Collister; Ralph @ Marcy Bergman
Cc: wswss at mailman.qth.net; vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu
Subject: Re: [VHF] Re: [Wswss] The 75mtr. VHF/UHF Weak Signal Net: - Move It
To VHF!

One possible answer:  As its a VHF-oriented net, why not take it to VHF. 
The csimplest way would be to use repeaters intertied using IRLP or
Echolink.  An even better way would be to set up a D-Star conference server
dedicated toio weak signal activities that could be used by all weak signal
gropups needing a regular meeting place.  Something similat to the VoIP
Hurricane Watch Net.

In my book, 75 meters is naught but a holdover from the days before there
was good quality, relatively inexpensive VHF and UHF geer and a dynasty
prior to the amazing advances in VHF/UHF repeater linking that is fast
making the need for an "HF gathering spot" to be outmoded and totally
obsolete.

Also, how many weak signal operators are there that either have no HF gear
-- or no room for a monster-sized 75 meter antenna?  Likely far more than
have even a 75 meter dipole.  By moving the net to an interlikned VHF / UHF
concept, theres every chance you will pick up a load of ops who would join
if not for the need for that monster sized HF antenna or laying out over
$1,000 for a radio they might use only occasionally.

Anyhow, give it some thought. With so many repeaters in the nation (almost
9000 I believe) and many lying dormant other than weekday dtive time -- I
would bet it would be a definate possibility to get a large number to sign
on to a project such as this.  All it takes is to ask the owners.

de
Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF


At 07:47 PM 12/7/2008 -0800, Rod Adkins wrote:
>Hi Lance & all on reflectors
>
>Since Ralph & I have been running this net, we have tried to stay on
>3925KHz as this has historically been used by WSWSS
>This worked OK in summer condx, but is clearly NOT going to work in winter
>condx
>
>Both this week & last, 3920 has been clear from 4:30pm - 5:00pm
>I'm reluctant to move too far in freq as some people's antennas need major
>retuning (including mine <g>)
>
>We were forced to move from a start time of 5pm to 4:30pm as we were losing
>propagation at abt 5:10pm.... (band going long)
>We do stay on freq until 5pm for a uaranteed 30min net - longer if condx &
>traffic warrant
>
>The net is very informal, & Ralph and I enjoy hearing what folks are up to,
>exchanging info abt nets, condx, etc
>We get check-ins from peolple active in vhf/uhf/microwaves/EME
>
>All are welcome!
>
>Rod Adkins WI6M nr San Diego
>17917 Lyons Valley Road
>Jamul, CA 91935
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Lance Collister <w7gj at q.com>
> > To: Ralph @ Marcy Bergman <k6tsk at juno.com>
> > Cc: <wswss at mailman.qth.net>; <vhf at w6yx.stanford.edu>
> > Date: 12/7/2008 6:39:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Wswss] The 75mtr. VHF/UHF Weak Signal Net:
> >
> > Ralph @ Marcy Bergman wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > >
> > > The Sunday southwest 75mtr. VHF/UHF
> > > weak signal net on 3,925khz +/- QRM
> > > At 4:30 to 5:00pm PST.
> > > The net has be changed again to 4:30pm PST due to
> > > back east QRM
> > >
> > > 73 Ralph K6TSK DM03XT and Rod WI6M DM12
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Wswss at mailman.qth.net
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> > >
> > Hello Rod,
> >
> > I heard you and tried to check in tonight, but there was a W5 net on the
>Gulf
> > Coast that also started on 3925 at the same time :-(  Almost all of
their
>stations
> > were stronger here than the West Coast stations.  That is probably due
to
>the fact
> > that my 75m dipole is aimed to the SE, and W6 is off the end of my
dipole.
> >
> > I noticed that there were no traffic nets and no QRM at all on
3825...are
>there
> > stil any WSWSS stations checking in on 3925 who cannot operate down on
>3825? I
> > sure hope to be able to at least be able to check in again one of these
>days, but
> > I no longer have an HF amp here (had to steal the transformer for a 6m
>amp - HI!).
> >
> > VY 73, Lance
> >
> > --
> > Lance Collister, W7GJ (ex: WN3GPL, WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A,
ZF2OC/ZF8)
> > P.O. Box 73
> > Frenchtown, MT  59834  USA
> > QTH: DN27UB
> > TEL: (406) 626-5728   URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj
> > 2m DXCC #11, 6m DXCC #815
> >
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