[WSWSS] For Sale - Partially Completed 2 Meter Kilowatt Amp & Pwr Supply

Neil Jessen [email protected]
Sat, 19 Jan 2002 18:34:25 -0800


Peter:

I have to agree with the last post.  If you thought that "Weak Signal" was 
the same as QRP, you were definitely mistaken!!  Since VHF/UHF and above 
are considered "line of sight" frequencies, it takes considerably more 
power to go a fraction of the distance, as compared to HF.  You can be 
assured that if someone is dishing out 1500 watts on 2 meter SSB, to a 
station 500 miles away, he will probably be pretty "weak"!!!!

73,
Neil - N6VHF




>Peter,
>
>I'm doing vy weak signal work on 2m EME & soon on 70cm EME.  I'm currently
>QRP on 2m running 400 watts output.  Even with legal limit pwr, EME is the
>ultimate weak signal work in amateur radio in my opinion.  In addition, I've
>done a lot of 2m MS over long hauls & pwr is helpful for that also.  "Weak
>Signal" is not synonymous with "QRP".
>
>73,
>Bob, K6PF
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Peter Shores" <[email protected]>
>To: "Bob Kocisko" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 2:21 PM
>Subject: Re: [WSWSS] For Sale - Partially Completed 2 Meter Kilowatt Amp &
>Pwr Supply
>
>
>Hi Bob,
>
>Each  time that I read about someone selling  "high power amplifiers" on
>this reflector  I cant help but think isn't this the "weak signal society"
>group? Maybe the name should reflect something other than weak since the
>amount of energy that is going to be radiated is far from what I thought the
>term implied. However, I guess if one is doing some kind of EME or long haul
>the signal at some point is going to become weak; at least to someone
>somewhere.
>
>73's
>
>Peter AD6TN
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bob Kocisko" <[email protected]>
>To: "WSWSS" <[email protected]>; "Moon-Net posting msgs"
><[email protected]>; "Forsale-Swap Net" <[email protected]>; "Bob
>Kocisko" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:06 PM
>Subject: [WSWSS] For Sale - Partially Completed 2 Meter Kilowatt Amp & Pwr
>Supply
>
>
> > Hello:
> >
> > Two days ago, I posted a message that I hv for sale a partially completed
> > K2RIW design 432 MHz kilowatt amp & pwr supply.  This message pertains to
>a
> > similar situation but for 2 meters instead.  In the May 1975 QST, W9OJI
> > described a 2 meter version of the K2RIW amp using 2 x 4CX250B's in
>parallel
> > with a 0.25 WL stripline for the anode & a 0.5 WL stripline for the grid
> > ckts.  I purchased this partially completed project fm a different ham
>with
> > the intent of using much of the RF deck & many parts of the HV, screen &
> > bias supplies but rebuilding them so they will look vy professional in my
>6
> > foot rack cabinet.  The quality of the construction of this PA & PS are no
> > where near the quality of the 432 MHz PA & PS that I offered 2 days ago.
>I
> > intended to re-build a heavy duty HV pwr supply (using the big & heavy
>xfmr
> > included), & screen, bias & filament supplies that would pwr this tetrode
>PA
> > on 2m + the 70cm tetrode PA.  I purchased this partially completed PA & PS
> > for $300 abt 4 years ago strictly for the parts & am offering it in the
>same
> > condition as when I purchased it for the same $300.  This will need to be
>a
> > pick-up only.  It's too big & heavy to ship.  Based on the value of the
> > parts alone, I think this price represents a very gud value.  I do hv a
> > couple of people in Southern Calif. interested in the 432 MHz PA & PS I
> > offered & rcv'd a couple of emails saying at $350, it was a "gift".  So,
>if
> > you're interested in this project & hv the ability & desire to complete
>it,
> > pse read on for a detailed description.  Otherwise, tnx for reading & go
> > ahead & delete this long message now.
> >
> > 73,
> > Bob, K6PF
> > DM13ar
> >
> > Detailed information for those of you who are interested follows.
> >
> > WHAT IS INCLUDED:
> >
> > The RF deck consists of two 17x7x3" aluminum chassis mounted back to back.
> > The 2 tube sockets are part of an assembled unit which was removed fm some
> > other equipment.  It is mounted along with 2 x 4CX250B's.  The 0.25 WL
>brass
> > stripline plate circuit & plate blocking cap are mfg'd & installed.  The
> > plate tuning vane (cap) is also mfg'd & mounted with a large venier & knob
> > on the exterior of the chassis.  The RFC is wound but not installed.  The
> > output coupling probe has not been made yet & the output coaxial connector
>&
> > HV connector & feedthru cap need to be installed.  The 0.5 WL brass
> > stripline for the grid ckt has bn mfg'd & installed & attached to a tuning
> > cap.  The capacitive input probe needs to be mfg'd & the tube sockets need
>
> > to be wired up.  THe input coaxial connector, RFC & feedthru cap all need
>to
> > be installed yet.  I would estimate that the RF deck is abt 65 to 70%
> > completed.  Agn, the hard part has bn done.  A blower was not included but
> > will be needed & the airflow system will need to be completed.  The
>quality
> > of construction of the chassis (extra holes, etc) is not that pretty.  I
> > think attaching this RF deck to a rack mount panel would add a nice touch
>&
> > any extra holes in the chassis can be plugged up.
> >
> > A copy of the May 1975 QST article is included along with another article
>by
> > W2GN in October 1977 which described another version of the K2RIW PA for
>2m.
> > That article included a pwr supply schematic.
> >
> > There is a separate 17x6x3 chassis & cover plate that has 3 meters mounted
> > on it.  One is 0-6V & labelled filaments, another meter is 0-1ma. for grid
> > current & the third meter is a 0-50ma. for screen current.  There are
> > connectors on the rear of the chassis & some interconnecting cables.  If
>the
> > RF deck is rack mounted, I think these 3 meters could all neatly be
>mounted
> > on the same panel.  Again, this chassis with the 3 meters is not vy
>pretty.
> >
> > The pwr supplies are mounted on a 17x13x3" chassis attached to a 12" rack
> > panel.  On the panel are 3 additional meters labelled 0-2.5KV plate
>voltage,
> > 0-500ma. plate current & 0-10v filament voltage.  Thr are also 2 toggle
> > switches (one is on/off & one is unlabeled), a rheostat to adjust the
> > filament voltage & a pot to adjust the grid bias.  There is another pot
> > unlabeled & not connected to anything.  Mounted on top of this chassis are
> > the HV diodes, electrolytic caps, HV metering ckt, screen supply & 2
>relays
> > (one is a time delay).  Another hvy duty relay & small xfmr(bias supply?)
> > are located underneath the chassis.  I never traced this ckt out since I
> > never intended to use this pwr supply as constructed since the quality of
> > construction was not up to my standards.  My intent was to use it as an
>xlnt
> > & inexpensive source of parts to rebuild it the way I wanted.
>Potentially,
> > all of the pwr supplies are completed but I hv no idea whether they work
> > properly or not.
> >
> > An old 36"Hx20.5"Wx15"D standard rack cabinet on castors is included.  It
> > needs paint & does not hv a rear door.  A huge plate xfmr (14"Lx9"Wx7"H)
>is
> > mounted on the bottom of the rack cabinet.  It probably weights 75-100 lbs
>&
> > needs a coat of paint also.  This xfmr is labeled 230 VAC primary & 2260V
> > secondary @ 2.1 KVA (almost 1 amp).  There are some interconnecting cables
> > included.  There are 2 of old pieces of aluminum with various holes that
> > serve as panels to fill up the space on the front of the rack cabinet.
> >
> > All of the above is being offered for $300 on a pickup only basis.
> >
> > I do hv a couple of optional item I can sell if someone is interested.  I
> > was going to build a vy well regulated HVPS using choke input filtering.
>I
> > purchased the following additional parts for the HVPS & will sell them for
> > what I paid.  THey include: 2 separate 35uf, 4KV oil filled caps that look
> > brand new ($30 each) + a used swinging choke (5-30 Hy, 750-75 ma., 10KV
> > test) for $40.  The choke also is vy heavy.  So, if interested, I will
> > include these 3 additional HVPS items for an additional $100 but they are
>an
> > option.  I won't sell them separately unless the PA & PS sell first & the
> > buyer doesn't hv an interest in these optional items.  I also was thinking
> > of using 2 x 4CX350A's instead of the 4CX250B's.  WOuld get a little
>higher
> > pwr out with higher anode voltage.  I may hv 2 or 3 of these tubes
>available
> > for sale if interested.
> >
> > I just took a few photographs & will try to get them developed on
>Saturday.
> > If they turned out ok, I should be able to email any interested parties a
> > few photos by Sunday.
> >
> > Pse let me know if you hv any interest.  Agn, if you got this far, many
>tnx
> > for reading this message.
> >
> > 73,
> > Bob, K6PF
> > DM13ar
> >
> >
> >
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