[W3GV] 61/82 Repeaters

John Lis jjlis at ymail.com
Sat Aug 11 12:23:04 EDT 2012 

I only use 61/82  needed.  61 is nothing but a piece of junk since we left QLN.  82 is a total in joke in the city.  There are other repeaters and simplex with better coverage. 
JOHN
N3NKV


________________________________
 From: kb3thu <kb3thu at gmail.com>
To: Radio Association of Erie (PA) <w3gv at mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [W3GV] 61/82 Repeaters
 
Yes, I heard this behavior had been displayed before, and why his
persistentness gets away from his mental instability, does he feel that
this club and hobby is his and only his. I used to call the repeater the
NKV61. Maybe we should moderate his emails from now on and approve/deny
them.
On Aug 10, 2012 11:40 PM, "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name> wrote:

> Wow, what happened here?! sounds like some history, but…seriously…isn't
> this supposed to be a hobby? You know, like, fun? Sure, maintaining a
> couple machines and links is a lot of work. Kudos to Matt and Adam and the
> repeater guys for doing what they do, in their spare time, and as they can.
> A "Thanks, atta boy guys" wouldn't go amiss here; and, really, is a link
> between two repeaters *in the same town* that all fired critical? Really?
> Look, we're hams. We pride ourselves for being adaptable. One of our
> strengths is that we're flexible and "Infrastructure? We don't need no
> stink in' infrastructure." So, like, let's adapt. It's what we do. No link?
> No problem. It'll be back when it's back. It's probably better to not have
> a link than to be interfering with, you know, professionals. If we can't
> provide emergency comms without *one* piece of our  infrastructure, then
> maybe the guys that want to have our spectrum and want us to go away have a
> point. (I don't think they do, but I've been wrong before.) I don't think
> we've outlived our usefulness, but if we've really lost our ability to be
> adaptable, maybe we have. So sad to see my hobby come to such a state in my
> home town…and Erie *is* my home; has been for 10 years, and I intend for it
> to stay that way.
>
> Mind you, I don't actually believe we've lost this ability, nor do I
> really believe we've outlived our usefulness. So I'll say it for whoever,
> lapsed non-member (because I procrastinate, I admit it) that I am. Keep up
> the good work, guys. And, thanks to everyone who contributes back to this
> hobby for the rest of us to enjoy.
>
> Now if we don't quit this sniping, it's a pretty safe bet that we'll
> sooner or later do our own selves in, not any outside forces. I personally
> want the ham radio I've loved for 25 years to be around another 250 years,
> which means we need to present a welcoming and friendly face to the noobs
> and prospective hams. This ain't that.
>
> So, go to your corners or something.
>
> Vy 73,
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 11:13 PM, Matt Fuller <mfullererie at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Well John -- how interesting...
> >
> > First of all, way to be a man about it and have to call me out on the
> list
> > serve. I don't know what you plan on accomplishing by doing this, but you
> > definitely made yourself look like a fool in front of everyone. Kudos...
> >
> > Secondly, I'm sure it must be a bummer for you to not to be on the
> > committee, therefore not having your finger on the pulse of what is going
> > on. Let it be known that it is being worked on, but it is more than a
> > programming issue. It is above Adam and I, and Jeremy is out of town and
> > unavailable for the foreseeable future, it makes it difficult -- unless
> you
> > have access to a scope, etc. Just know that it is being handled as
> quickly
> > as possible.
> >
> > Sorry that I have a life full of responsibility John. I work, on average,
> > 50+ hours a week at 3 jobs, plus have responsibilities as a husband,
> > father, as well as at church and the fire department, yet, I still make
> > time (and I literally "make" time) to work on the repeaters, because it
> is
> > something that I love to do. I know that you don't have a 1/10th of
> > those responsibilities, so I won't further bother you with trying to
> > explain that to you.
> >
> > Also, the way that the committee has been established, it is not just me.
> > The repeaters are worked on by a TEAM. Although I am the "leader" of the
> > team, it is all of us, working together, to accomplish a goal.
> > Unfortunately, we all have other responsibilities. The RAE does not give
> us
> > a paycheck, it is all volunteer, as a hobby, and therefore, it gets done
> > when we can get stuff done. I feel that we have the best group of people
> > together right now working on these repeaters, and to change it now,
> would
> > be detrimental to the people who use the repeaters.
> >
> > *The club still has two functioning repeaters, even though they are not
> > linked, they still function independently.*
> >
> > John -- the next time you have a problem with me (and that seems to be it
> > -- a problem with me), then man up and come to me directly. There is no
> > need to throw a temper tantrum over the list serve...
> >
> >
> > *For the rest of you, here is where we stand with the repeaters:*
> >
> > Approx 3 weeks ago, just after we had storms roll through the Waterford
> > area, we were alerted by Erie County Department of Public Safety (who
> > maintains the Sharp Rd site) that every time they key up on their low
> band
> > fire tower, it was keying up our repeater. The next morning, I went out
> to
> > the site with one of the techs from Erie County to try to troubleshoot
> the
> > problem. We determined that their radio was keying up the 220 radio. We
> did
> > some troubleshooting, and noted that when the radio was receiving a
> signal
> > on 220 from SVHC, that it try to transmit as well as receive. We replace
> > the radio, figuring that it may have taken some sort of lightning strike
> or
> > surge, but the same problem occurred. We visually checked the controller
> > and didn't see any signs of a lightning strike (no charring, etc).
> >
> > Right now, Jeremy (who is my main tech) is busy with his job out of town,
> > and so we have found someone else to help us find out what the possible
> > problem is, but right now, the problem looks to be in the controller. I
> > will be directly contacting Arcomm to see what our options are.
> >
> > If anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact me --- DIRECTLY
> --
> > at mfullererie at gmail.com, and not through the list serve.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Steve <slajohn at neo.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Oh dear
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: w3gv-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:w3gv-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> ]
> >> On Behalf Of John Lis
> >> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:49 PM
> >> To: RAE LIST
> >> Subject: [W3GV] 61/82 Repeaters
> >>
> >> It has been 3 weeks and the link is still down.  Whats the status?  We
> >> don’t hear anything from the repeater chairman.  I think it is time for
> a
> >> new chairperson.  I think we need someone  who is more available to work
> >> with the repeaters and has been around them.
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