[W2CRA] Fw: ARLB008 Cooperative Effort Under Way to Resolve Potential 70-Centimeter Interference Issue

Tony Ploski aploski at comcast.net
Thu Mar 25 13:02:58 EDT 2021


I remember that when PLRS was first being tested at a Marine base in CA, 
they asked the hams to turn off the local 440 MHz repeaters because they 
were interfering with the exercise. I believe this was the 1970s.

Tony W2HWW


On 3/25/2021 10:37 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
>
> And this:
>
> “Feb1, 2017   420-450 MHz   1. Band Introduction  The band 420-450 MHz 
> is used by the military and other Federal agencies for a number of 
> important radar applications, multi-function position-location 
> communications systems, space operations, space research, and test 
> range telecommand and flight termination systems making the band 
> essential to national security. The band 420-450 MHz is used 
> extensively by the military agencies for land-based, shipborne, and 
> airborne radar systems to perform important national security 
> functions. The physics of radio propagation make the band excellent 
> for long-range radar search and surveillance operations, and the 
> associated target tracking. The band is used for long-range search and 
> surveillance radars to detect and track ballistic missiles and 
> aircraft, and to catalog objects in space. The military agencies use 
> the band 420-450 MHz for the multi-function Position Location 
> Reporting System (PLRS) and the modernized Enhanced Position Location 
> Reporting System (EPLRS). EPLRS is a data communications network that 
> enables the rapid determination of the locations of all units in the 
> network. EPLRS also has communications and navigational capabilities 
> in addition to the position location feature. The EPLRS and its 
> airborne version, the AEPLRS, are critical to the operations and 
> safety of our military forces. The band 448-450 MHz is used for 
> important weather observations using wind-profiler radars to detect 
> wind speeds and crosswinds to aid in weather forecasting and to 
> provide flight planning and operational information to aircraft. The 
> band 420-450 MHz is used for command control and flight termination 
> functions at numerous missile and rocket launch and test ranges.” 
> https://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/compendium/0420.00-0450.00_01Feb17.pdf 
> <https://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/compendium/0420.00-0450.00_01Feb17.pdf>
>
> */---Ken Brown /**- W2KB *
>
> *From:* w2cra-bounces at mailman.qth.net <w2cra-bounces at mailman.qth.net> 
> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Cathcart
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2021 10:10 AM
> *To:* steve jordan <steve7343 at hotmail.com>; w2cra at mailman.qth.net
> *Subject:* Re: [W2CRA] Fw: ARLB008 Cooperative Effort Under Way to 
> Resolve Potential 70-Centimeter Interference Issue
>
> Read this for reference.
>
> https://ema.arrl.org/2007/09/23/arrl-continues-to-deal-with-dod-over-pave-paws-sites/ 
> <https://ema.arrl.org/2007/09/23/arrl-continues-to-deal-with-dod-over-pave-paws-sites/>
>
> -Kurt, KR2C
>
> On 3/25/2021 10:05 AM, steve jordan wrote:
>
>     How is it that ameture radio operators share 70cm with a federal
>     military facility?  Seems a little like letting the fox into the
>     hen house.
>
>     Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     *From:*w2cra-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>     <mailto:w2cra-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
>     <w2cra-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
>     <mailto:w2cra-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Kurt Cathcart,
>     KR2C <Kurt at KuhlRoad.net> <mailto:Kurt at KuhlRoad.net>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2021 7:40:27 AM
>     *To:* w2cra at mailman.qth.net <mailto:w2cra at mailman.qth.net>
>     <w2cra at mailman.qth.net> <mailto:w2cra at mailman.qth.net>
>     *Subject:* Re: [W2CRA] Fw: ARLB008 Cooperative Effort Under Way to
>     Resolve Potential 70-Centimeter Interference Issue
>
>     There was a similar case to this about 10 years ago up in Mass. 
>     The result was that Amateurs lost their 70cm privileges for a
>     certain parameter around a military radar facility.
>
>     -Kurt, KR2C
>
>     On 3/24/2021 10:28 PM, George wrote:
>
>         de AC2NX
>
>         This looks like it could be a real headache.  Let's hope this
>         never happens near us!
>
>            -- something to think about.
>
>         G.
>
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>
>         *From:*ARRL Web site <memberlist at www.arrl.org>
>         <mailto:memberlist at www.arrl.org>
>         *Sent:* Wednesday, March 24, 2021 3:51 PM
>         *To:* gknoedl at hotmail.com <mailto:gknoedl at hotmail.com>
>         <gknoedl at hotmail.com> <mailto:gknoedl at hotmail.com>
>         *Subject:* ARLB008 Cooperative Effort Under Way to Resolve
>         Potential 70-Centimeter Interference Issue
>
>         SB QST @ ARL $ARLB008
>         ARLB008 Cooperative Effort Under Way to Resolve Potential
>         70-Centimeter Interference Issue
>
>         ZCZC AG08
>         QST de W1AW
>         ARRL Bulletin 8  ARLB008
>         From ARRL Headquarters
>         Newington CT  March 24, 2021
>         To all radio amateurs
>
>         SB QST ARL ARLB008
>         ARLB008 Cooperative Effort Under Way to Resolve Potential
>         70-Centimeter Interference Issue
>
>         ARRL, the FCC, and the US Department of Defense are cooperating in
>         an effort to eliminate the possibility of amateur radio
>         interference
>         on 70 centimeters to critical systems at White Sands Missile Range
>         (WSMR) in New Mexico. The Defense Department's Regional Spectrum
>         Coordinator contacted the FCC in March, seeking information on
>         whom
>         to contact regarding detected amateur transmissions it believed
>         could pose a threat to a critical WSMR system operating on 70
>         centimeters. The FCC, in turn, asked ARRL to be involved in the
>         discussion and any necessary remedial efforts. It is to be noted
>         that the Amateur Radio Service is a secondary service on the band.
>
>         Investigation revealed that the potential problem was not with
>         individual operators or repeaters, but with RF control links
>         at 420
>         - 430 MHz used to establish a linked repeater system within New
>         Mexico. "Based on the investigation, and with the support of the
>         FCC, the owners of the RF control links being used in the 420
>         - 430
>         MHz portion of the amateur allocation within a certain
>         proximity to
>         WSMR are being asked to re-coordinate the link frequency to a new
>         one above 430 MHz," explained ARRL Regulatory Information Manager
>         Dan Henderson, N1ND.
>
>         ARRL enlisted the assistance of the state's designated repeater
>         frequency coordinator for information on specific links in
>         that part
>         of the band. New Mexico Repeater Frequency Coordinator Bill
>         Kauffman, W5YEJ, agreed to work with the control link operators to
>         find new frequencies that will meet the needs of the link
>         operators.
>
>         "Time is a factor in this request," Henderson said. "The new
>         systems
>         at WSMR are in advanced testing now and will become fully
>         operational by early summer 2021." The FCC-imposed deadline
>         for the
>         affected control links to change frequencies is set for May 31,
>         2021.
>
>         "It appears a total of 32 control links will have to be
>         addressed,"
>         Henderson said. ARRL has mailed letters to each of the RF control
>         link operators, based on the recordkeeping of the frequency
>         coordinator, to advise them of the DoD's request as the
>         primary user
>         on the band. "Any links with the potential to affect the
>         identified
>         systems at WSMR still in operation after May 31, 2021 will be
>         subject to action by the FCC."
>
>         Henderson said the changes should have no direct impact on the use
>         of any local repeater, but until all the affected RF control links
>         are transitioned to new frequencies, certain links may be
>         temporarily inoperative. Links unable to be relocated by May
>         31 will
>         have to be shut down until the situation can be resolved. ARRL
>         will
>         be in contact with the FCC after the May 31 deadline to advise
>         it of
>         the status of the remediation effort.
>         NNNN
>         /EX
>
>
>
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