[W2CRA] W2CRA Digest, Vol 106, Issue 6
Pete Fierro
overthetop52 at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 26 16:42:09 EST 2013
I could help out when you guys decide to relocate 375...73 de KD2ARB..Pete
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Today's Topics:
1. CRA: Repeaters (William Powell)
2. Re: CRA: Repeaters (Douglas)
3. Re: CRA: Repeaters (Marc Lees)
4. Example of team work (Douglas)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:41:00 -0800 (PST)
From: William Powell <whp at att.net>
To: CRA Reflector <w2cra at mailman.qth.net>
Cc: CRA Board Michael Varas N1MNV <mvaras at comcast.net>
Subject: [W2CRA] CRA: Repeaters
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<1358797260.82338.YahooMailRC at web184301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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Folks,
As I mentioned at both the board and general meeting we need to begin
preparing?for our?move to the new county tower in Cherryville which is
preliminarily scheduled in the June / July timeframe.? At that time, the
hardline to our existing site will be cut and the old tower taken down and
removed.
We have been?offered space (no idea just how much - no one willing to commit and
certainly not in writing) in the county transmitter building BUT we won't be
bringing the haywire mess from the blockhouse: the wicked witch and her 2 evil
stepdaughters won't let that happen.? EVERYTHING MUST be to PROFESSIONAL
STANDARDS.
So - we COMPLETELY clean up our act by June / July or loose the site AND
repeater coordination; 375 is dead, dead, dead.
Bob - OEE delivered 2 cabinets (thank you Bob) for our use in the county
building but, due to lack of help, we had to leave the cabinets outdoors, in the
weather, in order to get his truck unstuck.? If / when they rust they become
junk and will NOT go into the county building and we'll need new ones or put our
stuff in open racks where it WILL get fucked with.? It's LOCKED cabinets or
OFF-THE-AIR.
When it comes time to move the stuff over help WILL be needed and, as far as I
am concerned should be an all-hands affair, even if most stand around and try to
look intelligent.
Basically - does anyone give a simple rat's ass about 375 or does it get put out
of it's misery?? If the consensus is to keep it AND there is manpower to back up
that consensus then I'll outline the work needed to make the transition.?
Otherwise, it looks like you are on your own.
I expect that someone on the board will take a formal survey / vote on this
issue and share the results.? However, as far as I am concerned, it's time to
put up ior shut up.
I intend to keep 444.85 up for County RACES use even if I or the County have to
replace it and take it closed / private.? Coordination on 440 isn't a problem -
getting coordinated on 2M IS(1) a LARGE problem.? 90 days(2) after 375 goes
silent we LOOSE the coordination and will NEVER get it back - NEVER!
Ball is y'all side of the court,
Bp
Notes:
1) http://www.arcc-inc.org/Waiting_List_22_May_2012.pdf
2) http://www.arcc-inc.org/ARCC_Coordination_Policies-1_0.pdf
"Maintaining Coordination
????2 Subject to the following exceptions, ARCC coordination is valid for the
life of the operation:
???????f) If the repeater is off-the-air for more than 30 days and ARCC is not
notified, the coordination
????????? may be canceled.
??????????If the repeater has to be taken off-the-air for more than 30 days due
to extenuating circumstances,
????????? ARCC may extend the downtime grace period to a maximum of 90 days if
requested in writing prior
????????? to the expiry of the initial 30 day grace period."
Bill Powell - WB1GOT
VP Coordination - ARCC Inc.
NOTICE: If your communication is in regard to a pending repeater coordination
application(s) or modification(s), please be advised that said application(s)
will be placed on hold pending receipt of any questions asked or data requested
in this communication.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:20:37 -0500
From: Douglas <dwhite1762 at comcast.net>
To: w2cra at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [W2CRA] CRA: Repeaters
Message-ID: <50FDA315.5020000 at comcast.net>
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I am on board for helping and I would like to see .375 up and running.As
we all know I sit on it most of the time keeping people company on there
way home from work and passing info to those who pas through our area
like yesterday when 2 from South Carolina came through As you said it is
an all hands affair and it is not something we can sit by and piece
together.. So as far as the cabinets I will be the area Wednesday
affternoon if we can get anyone else I can bring my stepson to help.
I will step up and take the Survey Email me at kb2zzw at comcast.net with
your opinion and if you want to keep .375 alive when is the best time
for you to help make it happen. I will report to the board in the
February meeting what I receive. So lets not delay on this there is a
long proud tradition. Bill and Tony have been working hard to keep it
alive lets do our part..
( My Soap box broke need a diet )
Keep Warm and 73's
KB2ZZW
On 1/21/2013 2:41 PM, William Powell wrote:
> Folks,
>
> As I mentioned at both the board and general meeting we need to begin
> preparing for our move to the new county tower in Cherryville which is
> preliminarily scheduled in the June / July timeframe. At that time, the
> hardline to our existing site will be cut and the old tower taken down and
> removed.
>
> We have been offered space (no idea just how much - no one willing to commit and
> certainly not in writing) in the county transmitter building BUT we won't be
> bringing the haywire mess from the blockhouse: the wicked witch and her 2 evil
> stepdaughters won't let that happen. EVERYTHING MUST be to PROFESSIONAL
> STANDARDS.
> So - we COMPLETELY clean up our act by June / July or loose the site AND
> repeater coordination; 375 is dead, dead, dead.
>
> Bob - OEE delivered 2 cabinets (thank you Bob) for our use in the county
> building but, due to lack of help, we had to leave the cabinets outdoors, in the
> weather, in order to get his truck unstuck. If / when they rust they become
> junk and will NOT go into the county building and we'll need new ones or put our
> stuff in open racks where it WILL get fucked with. It's LOCKED cabinets or
> OFF-THE-AIR.
>
> When it comes time to move the stuff over help WILL be needed and, as far as I
> am concerned should be an all-hands affair, even if most stand around and try to
> look intelligent.
>
> Basically - does anyone give a simple rat's ass about 375 or does it get put out
> of it's misery? If the consensus is to keep it AND there is manpower to back up
> that consensus then I'll outline the work needed to make the transition.
> Otherwise, it looks like you are on your own.
>
> I expect that someone on the board will take a formal survey / vote on this
> issue and share the results. However, as far as I am concerned, it's time to
> put up ior shut up.
>
> I intend to keep 444.85 up for County RACES use even if I or the County have to
> replace it and take it closed / private. Coordination on 440 isn't a problem -
> getting coordinated on 2M IS(1) a LARGE problem. 90 days(2) after 375 goes
> silent we LOOSE the coordination and will NEVER get it back - NEVER!
>
> Ball is y'all side of the court,
> Bp
>
> Notes:
> 1) http://www.arcc-inc.org/Waiting_List_22_May_2012.pdf
> 2) http://www.arcc-inc.org/ARCC_Coordination_Policies-1_0.pdf
> "Maintaining Coordination
> 2 Subject to the following exceptions, ARCC coordination is valid for the
> life of the operation:
> f) If the repeater is off-the-air for more than 30 days and ARCC is not
> notified, the coordination
>
> may be canceled.
> If the repeater has to be taken off-the-air for more than 30 days due
> to extenuating circumstances,
> ARCC may extend the downtime grace period to a maximum of 90 days if
> requested in writing prior
> to the expiry of the initial 30 day grace period."
>
> Bill Powell - WB1GOT
> VP Coordination - ARCC Inc.
> NOTICE: If your communication is in regard to a pending repeater coordination
> application(s) or modification(s), please be advised that said application(s)
> will be placed on hold pending receipt of any questions asked or data requested
> in this communication.
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Douglas White III
Lambertville NJ
609-968-0704
http://hunterdonares.webs.com/
KB2ZZW
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:32:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Marc Lees <rallymaster at gmail.com>
To: William Powell <whp at att.net>, CRA Reflector
<w2cra at mailman.qth.net>
Cc: CRA Board Michael Varas N1MNV <mvaras at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [W2CRA] CRA: Repeaters
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I am available!
All I need is where and when and I will be there!
We don't need a survey and a report, we need to do it, some coordination from Tony and/or Bill who know what/hpow needs to be done...other s can supply muscle.? As most of us don't have as much muscle ('cept tween my ears) the more hands - lighter the load - easier for all.? Also any carts, dollies or hand truck may help moving cabinets.
?
Marc Lees
KC2MTR
>________________________________
> From: William Powell <whp at att.net>
>To: CRA Reflector <w2cra at mailman.qth.net>
>Cc: CRA Board Michael Varas N1MNV <mvaras at comcast.net>
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 2:41 PM
>Subject: [W2CRA] CRA: Repeaters
>
>Folks,
>
>As I mentioned at both the board and general meeting we need to begin
>preparing?for our?move to the new county tower in Cherryville which is
>preliminarily scheduled in the June / July timeframe.? At that time, the
>hardline to our existing site will be cut and the old tower taken down and
>removed.
>
>We have been?offered space (no idea just how much - no one willing to commit and
>certainly not in writing) in the county transmitter building BUT we won't be
>bringing the haywire mess from the blockhouse: the wicked witch and her 2 evil
>stepdaughters won't let that happen.? EVERYTHING MUST be to PROFESSIONAL
>STANDARDS.
>So - we COMPLETELY clean up our act by June / July or loose the site AND
>repeater coordination; 375 is dead, dead, dead.
>
>Bob - OEE delivered 2 cabinets (thank you Bob) for our use in the county
>building but, due to lack of help, we had to leave the cabinets outdoors, in the
>weather, in order to get his truck unstuck.? If / when they rust they become
>junk and will NOT go into the county building and we'll need new ones or put our
>stuff in open racks where it WILL get fucked with.? It's LOCKED cabinets or
>OFF-THE-AIR.
>
>When it comes time to move the stuff over help WILL be needed and, as far as I
>am concerned should be an all-hands affair, even if most stand around and try to
>look intelligent.
>
>Basically - does anyone give a simple rat's ass about 375 or does it get put out
>of it's misery?? If the consensus is to keep it AND there is manpower to back up
>that consensus then I'll outline the work needed to make the transition.?
>Otherwise, it looks like you are on your own.
>
>I expect that someone on the board will take a formal survey / vote on this
>issue and share the results.? However, as far as I am concerned, it's time to
>put up ior shut up.
>
>I intend to keep 444.85 up for County RACES use even if I or the County have to
>replace it and take it closed / private.? Coordination on 440 isn't a problem -
>getting coordinated on 2M IS(1) a LARGE problem.? 90 days(2) after 375 goes
>silent we LOOSE the coordination and will NEVER get it back - NEVER!
>
>Ball is y'all side of the court,
>Bp
>
>Notes:
>1) http://www.arcc-inc.org/Waiting_List_22_May_2012.pdf
>2) http://www.arcc-inc.org/ARCC_Coordination_Policies-1_0.pdf
>"Maintaining Coordination
>????2 Subject to the following exceptions, ARCC coordination is valid for the
>life of the operation:
>???????f) If the repeater is off-the-air for more than 30 days and ARCC is not
>notified, the coordination
>
>????????? may be canceled.
>??????????If the repeater has to be taken off-the-air for more than 30 days due
>to extenuating circumstances,
>????????? ARCC may extend the downtime grace period to a maximum of 90 days if
>requested in writing prior
>????????? to the expiry of the initial 30 day grace period."
>
>Bill Powell - WB1GOT
>VP Coordination - ARCC Inc.
>NOTICE: If your communication is in regard to a pending repeater coordination
>application(s) or modification(s), please be advised that said application(s)
>will be placed on hold pending receipt of any questions asked or data requested
>in this communication.
>______________________________________________________________
>W2CRA mailing list
>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/w2cra
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>
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>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:49:08 -0500
From: Douglas <dwhite1762 at comcast.net>
To: w2cra at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [W2CRA] Example of team work
Message-ID: <50FE8AC4.1040700 at comcast.net>
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Not that this is super special but I thought worth sharing....
At about 1:30 am I was awoke but the sound of Fire Trucks out back of my
building.I found out that there was a building on fire so I grabbed my
radio and went out,my radio has the RX for the county EMS and Dispatch
and the Lambertville Fire 9 with TX which they are aware of. The Chief
has an issue right off the bat units that did not have Fire 9 and were
not answering on the County Channel. He saw me and put me in to use as a
liaison for New Hope 46 Fire and general aid.
It was ashame 4 familys lost there home but after it was out the OEM
director for Lambertville left with out contacting Red Cross so I
stepped up and informed the Chief I had a contact due to ARES. Just and
example of how a little help goes a long way. For those that don't know
I served 22 years as a volunteer in NJ till 2006 when I was injured.
It is nice to be involved in a hobby that can help others and in tough
situation help take a load off someone who can be tasked with more
important work.
--
Douglas White III
Lambertville NJ
609-968-0704
http://hunterdonares.webs.com/
KB2ZZW
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